Simple Spring & Angular Fequency Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving angular frequency in a spring-mass system. A participant questions why their calculation yields a negative angular frequency while the expected result is positive. Clarifications are provided, emphasizing that the correct approach involves determining the effective spring constant (keq) and using it to derive angular frequency. The effective spring constant is defined as the total force exerted by the springs divided by the displacement. Participants encourage focusing on the correct derivation to resolve the confusion regarding the signs in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


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Fs=-kx

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Why does my answer equate to negative angular frequency when the given result is positive?
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Firstly , mg = (k1 + k2)x and not it's negative .

Secondly , what have you done here ?
Why have you equated mg to keqx ? This only gives you the equilibrium position .

Correct derivation would be - find keq , then write the formula for w interms of k and m .

Hope this helps .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
Firstly , mg = (k1 + k2)x and not it's negative .

Secondly , what have you done here ?
Why have you equated mg to keqx ? This only gives you the equilibrium position .

Correct derivation would be - find keq , then write the formula for w interms of k and m .

Hope this helps .

Thank you, it helps. But I am wondering how do I find
keq?
 
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Thank you, it helps. But I am wondering how do I find
keq?
There is a certain spring constant, keq, such that if we put a single spring with that spring constant in place of the other two springs, it would have the same effect.

So if you displace the mass by Δx, then the two springs exert a total force of F on the mass. That means (by the above definition) the effective spring constant is F/Δx.

So now try to find this total force F (from the springs) in terms of the given spring constants and Δx.
 
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Nathanael said:
There is a certain spring constant, keq, such that if we put a single spring with that spring constant in place of the other two springs, it would have the same effect.

So if you displace the mass by Δx, then the two springs exert a total force of F on the mass. That means (by the above definition) the effective spring constant is F/Δx.

So now try to find this total force F (from the springs) in terms of the given spring constants and Δx.

Thank you
 
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