Simple systems/devices for translating linear force (pull) into torque?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of translating linear force into torque using a system involving a wheel and a rope. Participants explore potential mechanisms to achieve this, particularly focusing on the attachment of the rope to the wheel and the feasibility of different setups.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant envisions a wheel with a rope attached perpendicularly, questioning how to connect the rope to facilitate rotation when pulled.
  • Another participant suggests using a pulley system to change the axis of rotation, providing a visual reference.
  • A different participant emphasizes the need for more specific details about the application, including numerical values like forces and diameters, to provide practical assistance.
  • This participant also notes that any pulley or gear system would require a stationary anchor point, indicating that the setup must account for clearances and mounting requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a pulley or gear system could be used, but there is no consensus on the specific implementation or design details. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple approaches suggested.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of application-specific details and constraints, which are currently missing. The discussion does not resolve how the rope should be attached or the exact mechanics of the proposed systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in mechanical design, particularly those exploring methods of converting linear motion to rotational motion in practical applications.

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Hello all. I'm not knowledgeable in this area so forgive me if this question is obvious. Just a thought which occurred to me that I don't know how to answer.

Here is what I'm envisioning: picture a wheel, and an attached rope which is perpendicular to the plane of the wheel. If I pull on the rope, then the wheel is turned. The distance the rope is pulled along that perpendicular axis determines how the distance that the wheel rotates.

The problem: I don't know what can make that happen. How would the rope be attached or connected to the wheel?

I understand that if the rope was for example coiled around the outside of the wheel and then pulled in a direction that lay along the plane of the wheel, then that would cause the wheel to rotate. But what I want is some system that wraps around the outside of the wheel, with a rope perpendicular to the wheel.

Is this simple or complicated? Thanks for reading.
 
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smohyee said:
Hello all. I'm not knowledgeable in this area so forgive me if this question is obvious. Just a thought which occurred to me that I don't know how to answer.

Here is what I'm envisioning: picture a wheel, and an attached rope which is perpendicular to the plane of the wheel. If I pull on the rope, then the wheel is turned. The distance the rope is pulled along that perpendicular axis determines how the distance that the wheel rotates.

The problem: I don't know what can make that happen. How would the rope be attached or connected to the wheel?

I understand that if the rope was for example coiled around the outside of the wheel and then pulled in a direction that lay along the plane of the wheel, then that would cause the wheel to rotate. But what I want is some system that wraps around the outside of the wheel, with a rope perpendicular to the wheel.

Is this simple or complicated? Thanks for reading.

May you sketch your system please?
 
You can use a pulley system to change the axis of rotation:

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[PLAIN]http://kmoddl.org/machinesandmechanisms/images/a/a7/Still_V07._Belt_and_Pulley_Drive_Between_Two_Non-parallel_Axes.jpg
 
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yeah, pulleys is what initially popped into my head too. the setup is very application specific, so it would really help if you describe your setup/purpose. Try to use as many numbers (i.e. forces, diameters, tolerances, etc) as possible.

Keep in mind that any type of pulley or gear system will require a stationary anchor point for the pulley/gear, so depending on your setup and clearances, you will need a mount that does not rotate with the wheel to redirect the rope. Again, your application and setup really need to be described if you want practical help.

Initially, I can't think of anything besides pulleys or gears.
 

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