Simplify Expression and Find Product of a*b + 15m + 11n + 8

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The discussion focuses on determining the value of 'a' for the expression a*m*b + 15*m + 11*n + 8 to be factored into a product involving 'm' and 'n'. It clarifies that the original formulation of the expression was incorrect, suggesting it should involve 'm' and 'n' instead of 'b'. The necessary conditions for factoring are outlined, leading to equations involving the coefficients of 'm' and 'n'. The conclusion indicates that the correct value of 'a' can be derived from the relationships established, specifically a = (15*11)/8. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the terms to achieve the desired factorization.
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for which value of a the expression write a*m*b+15*m+11*n+8 can be written into a product
of something(with m)*something (with n)

i can think how to find the product of this expression
 
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Two points- first the problem does NOT ask you to find the product- it asks you to find a so that it can be written as a product. Second, you have written the problem incorrectly. That first term "amb" does not mmae any sense. You could just combine "b" into "a". Further a product of a "something (with n)" and "something (with m)" must have a term in which m and n themselves are mutiplied. I believe the problem was "a*m*n", not "a*m*b".

"Something with n" times "something with m" would be of the form (pm+ q)(sn+ t) for some numbers p, q, s, and t. Multiplying that, (ps)mn+ (pt)m+ (qs)n+ qt. For that to be amn+ 15m+ 11n+ 8 we must have ps= a, pt= 15, qs= 11, and qt= 8. If we divide qs= 11 by qt= 8, the "q"s cancel and we get t/s= 11/8. If we divide ps= a by pt= 15, the "p"s cancel and we get s/t= a/15. From t/s= 11/78 we get s/t= 8/11 and so must have a/15= 8/11.
 
i forgot to say that the expression is (a*m*n+15*m+11*n+8)^2 but its says that this a that we found its not correct...
 
and its 1/(this expression)...
 
where is the wrong?
 
HallsofIvy said:
ps= a, pt= 15, qs= 11, and qt= 8. ... a/15= 8/11.
a = ps = (pt)(qs)/(qt) = 15*11/8
 
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