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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression sin(2 * arcsin(x/3)), focusing on the application of trigonometric identities and the properties of inverse functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of the double angle identity for sine and the relationship between sine and cosine in the context of the arcsine function. There is confusion regarding the application of the Pythagorean identity and how it relates to the simplification process, particularly in deriving the factor of 9.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the application of trigonometric identities. Some have pointed out misunderstandings about the identity used and the derivation of terms in the expression, while others express gratitude for the clarifications offered.

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Participants mention a lack of confidence in their mathematical background and express urgency due to an upcoming exam, which may influence the depth of their inquiries and the nature of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Simplify this expression.

sin(2* arcsin(x/3))

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Let t = arcsin(x/3), we get sin(2t) which is double angle
sin(2T) = 2 sinT cosT

I did cosT first

T = arcsin x/3, and we know inverse of arcsin is sin T = x/3
this gives us the hypotenuse 3, and opposite side = x (3sin delta = x)
using the identity of cos^2 + sin^2 = 1, and solve for cos, I get cosT = sqrt(9-x^2)

This is corrected.

Now, solve for sinT.

sin(arcsin(x/3)), is the same as just x/3, by definition I think.
Well, the answer the book gave was 2x/9 * cosT
I get the cosT part right, but now the x/9

I don't understand how he produced the number 9.

Thank you. I have an exam so please pardon me posting so many questions these two days.
 
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You said that you used sin^2+cos^2=1 to solve for the cos T. It should be \cos T= \sqrt{1-sin^2 T}
\cos T=\sqrt {1-\frac{x^2}{3^2}}. Find a common denominator under the radical and a 3 pops out in the denominator.
 
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I still don't get it.
Right, the identity is that, so in this case, we have sin^2 + cos^2 = 3^2
so cost is right (what i wrote)
i still can't understand how we get 1/9 outside for sinT
 
The identity doesn't have 3^2, it has 1 \sin^2 T + \cos ^2 T=1 , not 9.

You are mixing up the the identity with the triangle.

So far you have \frac{2x}{3}\sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{9}
Then you find the common denominator under the radical:

\frac{2x}{3}\sqrt{\frac{9-x^2}{9}}=\frac{2x}{3}\frac{\sqrt{9-x^2}}{3}
 
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happyg1 said:
The identity doesn't have 3^2, it has 1 \sin^2 T + \cos ^2 T=1 , not 9.

You are mixing up the the identity with the triangle.

So far you have \frac{2x}{3}\sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{9}
Then you find the common denominator under the radical:

\frac{2x}{3}\sqrt{\frac{9-x^2}{9}}=\frac{2x}{3}\frac{\sqrt{9-x^2}}{3}

Brilliant. Thank you for pointing this out.
My math professor only repeats what the book prints, and my background in Math is a bit weak.
Thanks for all the help!
 

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