Singularities in the harmonic oscillator propagator

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Hi people!
Today I was doing some QFT homework and in one of them they ask me to calculate the Harmonic Oscillator propagator, which, as you may know is:
W(q_2,t_2 ; q_1,t_1) = \sqrt{\frac{m\omega}{2\pi i \hbar \sin \omega (t_2-t_1)}} \times \exp \left(\frac{im\omega}{2\hbar \sin \omega (t_2-t_1)}\left[ (q_1^2+q_2^2)\cos \omega (t_2-t_1)-2q_2q_1\right]\right)

So, the last question of the problem is explaining why do we have singularities at t_2-t_1=n\pi / \omega.
I've been searching for it on books and I've found something about the "caustics", which I've no idea what is it...
I understand that when t_2-t_1=0 it has to diverge, because the particle hasn't moved from its place as the time hasn't passed, but why it happens every half period?
It seems to me that if the function diverges at those points then we are sure of which is the position of the particle at those times, and I thought that there had to be an uncertainty for t_2-t_1 \neq 0 (I don't know if I'm explaining well enought what I think hahahhaa...)

Thanks in advance!
 
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Hm, that's a very good question. I've never thought about it, to be honest. Of course, any propagator must fulfill the boundary condition
W(q_2,0;q_3,0)=\delta(q_2-q_3).
That this occurs periodically may be caused by the dynamical SU(2) symmetry of the simple harmonic oscillator. Mathematically it's easy to understand by deriving the propgator making use of the Heisenberg picture. Solving the equations of motion for the position and momentum operators is exactly as for c-numbers, because the Hamiltonian is quadratic not only in momentum but also in position, i.e., the equations of motion are linear.
 
Cancer said:
So, the last question of the problem is explaining why do we have singularities at t_2-t_1=n\pi / \omega.
I've been searching for it on books and I've found something about the "caustics", which I've no idea what is it...
I understand that when t_2-t_1=0 it has to diverge, because the particle hasn't moved from its place as the time hasn't passed, but why it happens every half period?

Where will the particle be after one period? Remember that for the harmonic oscillator every wave function is exactly periodic with period T = 2\pi/\omega.

Now, where will the particle be after one half-period?

You might find it fun to set up and play with a harmonic oscillator potential in this applet.
 
Actually, what's interesting about the harmonic oscillator propagator is that it is periodic:
W(q_2,t_2 ; q_1,t_1) = W(q_2,t_2 + n T; q_1,t_1)

where T = \frac{2 \pi}{\omega}

Given that it is periodic, you would expect a singularity whenever t_2 - t_1 = n T, because every propagator has a singularity at t_2 - t_1 = 0

So the only mystery is why there are twice as many singularities as that. There is a singularity at t_2 - t_1 = \frac{T}{2} as well as at t_2 - t_1 = T
 
Thanks for the answers!
 
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