Sinusoidial waves: Frequency is not dependant on speed?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between wave speed, frequency, and wavelength for sinusoidal waves on a stretched string. The equation v = λf suggests that speed is dependent on frequency; however, the correct equation for wave speed on a string is v = √(T/μ), where T is tension and μ is mass density. This indicates that while frequency may change, the wave speed remains constant if tension and mass density are unchanged. The confusion arises from not accounting for the change in wavelength when frequency increases.

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  • Understanding of wave mechanics and sinusoidal waves
  • Familiarity with the wave speed equation v = λf
  • Knowledge of the relationship between tension, mass density, and wave speed
  • Basic algebra for manipulating equations
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  • Explore the effects of tension and mass density on wave propagation in different mediums
  • Investigate how changes in frequency affect wavelength in sinusoidal waves
  • Learn about the principles of wave interference and superposition in stretched strings
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Homework Statement



I am really confused.

v = λ f

doesn't that imply that speed is dependent on frequency?

There is a question in my book that says:

A sinusoidal wave of frequency f is traveling along a stretched string. The string is brought to rest, and a second traveling wave of frequency 2f is established on the string.
(i) what is the wave speed of the second wave?


Homework Equations



v = λ f

The Attempt at a Solution



so I figured the answer would be something like:

since v1=λf
it follows that, if the second wave has frequency 2f
v2 = λ(2f)
v2 = 2 (λf)
v2 = 2 (v1)

but somehow the answer is: "the same as the first wave" Can someone explain this to me?
 
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Willjeezy said:

Homework Statement



I am really confused.

v = λ f

doesn't that imply that speed is dependent on frequency?

There is a question in my book that says:

A sinusoidal wave of frequency f is traveling along a stretched string. The string is brought to rest, and a second traveling wave of frequency 2f is established on the string.
(i) what is the wave speed of the second wave?


Homework Equations



v = λ f

The Attempt at a Solution



so I figured the answer would be something like:

since v1=λf
it follows that, if the second wave has frequency 2f
v2 = λ(2f)
v2 = 2 (λf)
v2 = 2 (v1)

but somehow the answer is: "the same as the first wave" Can someone explain this to me?

You are assuming λ doesn't change. You have the wrong equation. What equation determines the speed of a wave on a stretched string? Might just involve tension and mass density, yes?
 
Ohhhhh, right right. If frequency increases λ would get shorter.

i flipped two pages down and found:
v=√(T/μ)

problem solved. Thanks.
 

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