Skin Depth Confusion: Investigating Different Equations for Paul

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The discussion centers on confusion regarding two equations for calculating skin depth, δ, in conductive materials. The first equation, involving the loss tangent, yields a significantly larger value (1.57m) compared to the second equation (66.09μm), which is deemed correct for the given parameters. It is clarified that the first equation defines δ as an angle in radians, while the second defines it as a physical length. This distinction highlights that the first equation may only be valid within specific ranges of loss tangents. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using the correct definitions and contexts for the equations involved.
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Dear all

I am slightly confused over the equations for skin depth. My university notes give me the equations:

\delta = tan-1 (tan\delta) = \frac{\sigma}{\omega \epsilon} (loss tangent)

where \delta is skin depth and \sigma is conductivity.

I am also given the equation:

\delta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi f \mu \sigma}}

However, for the situation below, they both yield different skin depths.

f = 1MHz

w = 2\pi f

\sigma = 5.8 \times 10^{7} Sm-1

Using the first equation:

\delta = tan-1( \frac{5.8\times 10^{7}}{2\pi \times 1 \times 10^{6} \times 8.85 \times 10^{-12}} = 1.57m)

Using the second equation:

\delta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi \times 1 \times 10^{6} \times 4\pi \times 10^{-7} \times 5.8 \times 10^{7}}} = 66.09\mu m

It seems like the first equation gives 1.57 for all large values of the loss tangent, whereas the second equation gives the correct result.

Is the first equation valid for a certain range of loss tangents only?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Regards

Paul
 
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You are using two different definitions for δ.

The angle δ = tan-1(loss tangent) is in radians

The skin depth δ is in length (e.g., mm).

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