So the integral is a triple integral with the limits described above.

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid defined by specific inequalities, including a sphere and two cylindrical regions. The inequalities are x^2+y^2+z^2≤4, (x-1)^2+y^2≥1, and (x+1)^2+y^2≥1, suggesting a geometric interpretation involving a sphere and cylindrical shapes.

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  • Participants discuss visualizing the solid and consider the geometric implications of the inequalities. There are attempts to calculate the volume of the sphere and the cylinders, with some participants questioning the correctness of their calculations and the use of cylindrical coordinates. The role of the Jacobian in the integration process is also debated.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of cylindrical coordinates and the integration limits, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer.

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Participants express uncertainty about the integration process and the visualization of the solid, indicating potential difficulties in interpreting the geometric setup. There are also mentions of specific values that are expected as answers, which may not align with the current calculations.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the object, defined by these inequalities(?): x^2+y^2+z^2≤4, (x-1)^2+y^2≥1, (x+1)^2+y^2≥1

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



First we draw the object, and realize that it's a sphere with 2 circles in it with radius 1 at (-1,0) and (1,0). Our object is defined outside these circles, so I imagine we could consider the square with 2 cylinders drilled out. If we can find the volume of one of these cylinders from 0 to z we are done. (Vsphere-4*Vcylinder)
Is this the way to go or do we have other solutions? This one doesn't give me right answer...
 
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I suspect that you have calculated the volume of the cylinders incorrectly. The top and bottom are pieces of the sphere not planes. Yes, this is a sphere of radius 2 and so its volume, ignoring the cylinders for the moment, is [itex](16/3)\pi[/itex].

By symmetry, it is sufficient to find volume of one cylinder, then subtract twice that from the volume of the sphere. Also, I think I would be inclined to shift the coordinate system so that the center of one cylinder is at the origin: if we let x'= x- 1, y'= y, z'= z, then one cylinder has equation [itex]x'^2+ y'^2= 1[/itex] and the sphere has equation [itex](x'+1)^2+ y'^2+ z'^2= x'^2+ 2x'+ 1+ y'^2+ z'^2= 4[/itex], [itex](x'^2+ y'^2)+ 2x'+ z'^2= 3[/itex].

Now, convert to cylindrical coordinates: [itex]x'= rcos(\theta)[/itex], [itex]y'= r sin(\theta)[/itex], [itex]z'= z[/itex] so the equation of the sphere becomes [itex]r^2+ 2r cos(\theta)+ z^2= 3[/itex] so that [itex]z= \pm (3- r^2- 2r cos(\theta))^{1/2}[/itex]. Then the volume of the cylinder is
[tex]\int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r= 0}^1\int_{z= -(3- r^2- 2rcos(\theta))^{1/2}}^{(3- r^2- 2rcos(\theta))^{1/2}} r cos(\theta)dzdrd\theta[/tex]
 
Hi, thanks for answering. This was kinda the vision I had, tho i was unfamiliar with cylindrical coordinates. I don't understand where cos(θ) comes from in the integrand? The jacobian from the substitution would just be r, no? Or have I missed something fundamental here? The double integral gets kinda messy after we've integrated with respect to z, in my mind.

And I don't seem to get the correct answer, which should be 128/9.
 
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You are right regarding the Jacobian in your above post.

nickthegreek said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the object, defined by these inequalities(?): x^2+y^2+z^2≤4, (x-1)^2+y^2≥1, (x+1)^2+y^2≥1

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



First we draw the object, and realize that it's a sphere with 2 circles in it with radius 1 at (-1,0) and (1,0). Our object is defined outside these circles, so I imagine we could consider the square with 2 cylinders drilled out. If we can find the volume of one of these cylinders from 0 to z we are done. (Vsphere-4*Vcylinder)
Is this the way to go or do we have other solutions? This one doesn't give me right answer...
Yes.

You are to find the volume enclosed by the sphere, but external to the two cylinders.

So, find the portion of one cylinder enclosed by the sphere and above z = 0. Then use your expression, (Vsphere-4*Vcylinder) .

What is the equation of the circle, (x-1)2+y2 = 1, in polar coordinates?

(I haven't worked the problem, but I suspect the answer is more like 128π/9 .)
 
In polar coordinates it would be r^2-2rcosθ=0 ⇔ r=2cosθ. So it will go from 2cosθ and follow the sphere upwards... nah I am having a hard time visualizing it :(

Yes, the answer is probably a small typo then.
 
nickthegreek said:
In polar coordinates it would be r^2-2rcosθ=0 ⇔ r=2cosθ. So it will go from 2cosθ and follow the sphere upwards... nah I'm having a hard time visualizing it :(

Yes, the answer is probably a small typo then.
I would integrate over z first: from 0 to √(4-r2)

Then r goes from 0 to 2cos(θ) .

Then θ : from -π/2 to π/2 .
 

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