Solution to diffusion equation in 1d spherical polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around the steady state diffusion equation in one-dimensional spherical polar coordinates. Participants are exploring the implications of the equation and the form of its solution, which is suggested to be c(r) = A + B/r, where A and B are constants. The original poster expresses difficulty in progressing from the given equation to this solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss differentiation techniques and integration attempts related to the diffusion equation. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of terms in the equation, particularly the significance of the constant D and the independence of certain expressions from the variable r. There is also inquiry into the reasoning behind equating r^2.∂c/∂r to a constant.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications on the mathematical reasoning involved. Some guidance is offered regarding the interpretation of the equation and the implications of certain terms, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or resolution of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of a multiplier D/r^2 in the equation, raising questions about its role in the solution process. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the notation and the context of the problem as part of a homework exercise.

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Ok,

I have been given the steady state diffusion equation in 1d spherical polar coordinates as;

D.1/(r^2).'partial'd/dr(r^2.'partial'dc/dr)=0

I know that the solution comes in the form c(r) = A+B/r where A and B are some constants. I just don't know how to get from here to there. I have tried doing differentiation by parts on the equation then integrating the result, with no success. I can form a second order differential equation of the form;

r^2.'partial'd2c/dr2 +2r'partial'dc/dr = 0

but again don't know where to go from here. Any help greatly appreciated!
 
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captainst1985 said:
D.1/(r^2).'partial'd/dr(r^2.'partial'dc/dr)=0

Hi captainst1985! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(btw, if you type alt-d, it prints ∂)

I don't understand what the D is at the beginning of the line. :confused:

If I ignore that, the equation says ∂/∂r(r^2.∂c/∂r) = 0;

so r^2.∂c/∂r must be independent of r (-B, say);

so ∂c/∂r = -B/r^2;

so c = A + B/r.
 
Hi,

Can you explain why one would say that:

so r^2.∂c/∂r must be independent of r (-B, say)?

Why would you equate r^2.∂c/∂r to be -B? What is the basis for this and/or the technique that does this called? I've gotten a little forgetful on some of these techniques...

The OP also had the multiplier on the front end that is effectively:

D/r^2

How does that come into play when solving?

Thanks!
 
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Hi JHZR2! Welcome to PF! :wink:
JHZR2 said:
Hi,

Can you explain why one would say that:

so r^2.∂c/∂r must be independent of r (-B, say)?

Because ∂/∂r of that is 0, ie (in words) the derivative of that with respect to r is 0, so changing r doesn't change it, ie it must be independent of r. :smile:
The OP also had the multiplier on the front end that is effectively:

D/r^2

How does that come into play when solving?

Because if 1/r2 times something is 0, then the something must also be 0, so we can ignore the 1/r2 ! :wink:

(The D probably just indicates that it's the fourth exercise in the homework … A. B. C. D. …)

(btw, typing "alt-d" for "∂" only works on a Mac :redface:)
 

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