Solve Classical Mechanics: Find Force, Stable & Turning Points

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The discussion focuses on solving a classical mechanics problem involving a mass moving in a potential defined by U(x) = -a/x + b/x^2. Participants explore how to derive the force F(x) from the potential energy function and identify stable and turning points. They suggest using analogies with spring mechanics to find the equation for the period of motion, emphasizing the importance of energy conservation. A key approach involves setting up the equation E = (1/2)mv^2 + U(x) and integrating to determine the period. The conversation highlights the relationship between potential energy and force, guiding the calculation of k for the system.
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A mass m is move in potential

U(x) = -a/x+b/x^2

I can solve this problem to find force F(x), stable point, turnning point
but i can't to find the equation of period of the mass for boundaring movement
please help
 
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How about just using an analogy with the case for a spring:

F(x)=kx, etc. :smile:
 
Berislav said:
How about just using an analogy with the case for a spring:

F(x)=kx, etc. :smile:

w(omega) = sqrt(k/m) is correct?.
if correct how can to find values k?. please explain
 
Following Berislav 's suggestion,
U(x)=(1/2)kx^2 for a spring.

Hopefully, you *know* what force law F(x) corresponds to this potential energy function. How do you get F(x) from U(x)?

What characterizes [in terms of U(x)] the position of the stable equilibrium point?

Given a suitable total energy E (a constant), what is the range of positions available to the particle? If you can setup a differential equation for the conservation of energy, you can obtain an expression for t as a function of E and U(x).

If you can successfully do this for this potential energy function, you should [in principle] be able to apply the same ideas to your potential energy function.
 
F= - \frac {dU}{dX}

Put above equal to kx and get k , use some math.

BJ
 
how would you get k from that? Seems like you need to know what x is... :smile: Is that what you mean by "use some math"?
 
danai_pa:

Did you get an answer to this problem? I don't believe you will need to solve any cubic equations. Do what robphy said...set up the equation

E = (1/2)mv^2 + U(x), where v = dx/dt

and solve for dt. Integrate from one turning point to the other. That's half a period. This gives you the exact period even if the oscillation is not small. If you are allowed to assume the oscillation is small, you can expand the potential energy about a stable point and then apply the F = -kx technique.
 
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