Solve complex 2nd order differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a complex second-order differential equation involving the second derivative of a function with respect to a variable and a nonlinear term. The subject area is differential equations, specifically focusing on the challenges of separating variables in a non-standard form.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore different forms of the equation, questioning how to manipulate it effectively. Some suggest rewriting the equation to facilitate separation of variables, while others express uncertainty about their mathematical manipulations and seek clarification on their reasoning.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing various transformations of the original equation and expressing concerns about their mathematical accuracy. There is a collaborative effort to refine the approach, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or solution.

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Some participants mention feeling rusty with their math skills, which may impact their confidence in manipulating the equation. The original poster indicates that the problem does not conform to standard forms typically encountered in differential equations.

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Homework Statement



t''[x] = \frac{2}{t} t'[x]^{2}

The Attempt at a Solution



This is not your basic 2ODE, since I can't separate the components into y'', y' and y.

Help?

I've so far tried:
\frac{d^{2}t}{dx^{2}}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2}

\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2}dx

dt=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt^{2}}{dx})

\frac{1}{2}dx=\frac{1}{t}dt

\frac{1}{2}x+k=ln[t]+c

t = e^{k-c}e^{\frac{1}{2}x

somehow this doest seem right...
 
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How about writing the equation as

\frac{t''}{t'} = 2 \frac{t'}{t}?
 
So I then get:

ln(t') +c = 2ln(t) +k ?

2ln(t) - ln(t') -R = ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = ln(R) (my maths is pretty rusty)
 
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tetris11 said:
So I then get:

ln(t') +c = 2ln(t) +k ?

2ln(t) - ln(t') -R = ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = R (my maths is pretty rusty)

Yep, it might be easier to write this in the form

ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = \ln C,

since the next step is to manipulate this into an easy first-order equation for t.
 
ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = ln(R)

t^{2} = R\frac{dt}{dx}

\int\frac{1}{t^{2}} dt =\int -R dx

\frac{-1}{t} +k = -Rx +c

t = \frac{A}{Rx+j}

thanks dude!
 

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