Solve DE: dy/dt = 2*(abs(sqrt(y)))

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The discussion revolves around the differential equation dy/dt = 2*(abs(sqrt(y))). Participants are tasked with finding all solutions and addressing the implications of the uniqueness theorem in the context of this equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the nature of the solutions, questioning the implications of the absolute value in the equation. There is discussion about splitting the differential equation into cases based on the sign of y and the potential redundancy in integration. Some participants express confusion regarding the definitions and properties of the functions involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts at solving the equation and clarifying definitions. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the formulation of the equation and its implications for finding solutions. Some guidance has been offered, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final solution.

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Participants note that the uniqueness theorem may not apply due to the non-differentiability of the differential equation at y=0. There is also mention of a hint from a professor regarding the form of the solution, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Consider dy/dt = 2*(abs(sqrt(y)))

1.Show that y(t)=0 is a solution for all t.
I did this part

2.Find all solutions (hint, give solution like y(t)=... for t>=0, y(t)=... t<0).
He told us in class that t=0 isn't necessarily the point we should be concerned with

3.Why doesn't this contradict the uniqueness theorem?
I have a feeling it's because our DE isn't differentiable at y=0, but my main problem is number 2.

I graphed this DE on the computer, so assuming I typed it in right I know what it looks like. I also tried splitting the DE up into cases for part 2, but it seems that I would have to perform the same integral twice which doesn't really make sense.
 
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SomeRandomGuy said:
I also tried splitting the DE up into cases for part 2, but it seems that I would have to perform the same integral twice which doesn't really make sense.
Could you show your work then? There should be a small difference...
Remember the definition of the absolute value.
 
TD said:
Could you show your work then? There should be a small difference...
Remember the definition of the absolute value.

dy/dt = 2*sqrt(abs(y)) = 2*sqrt(y) y>=0, 2*sqrt(-y) y<0

isn't 2*sqrt(-y) when y<0 = 2*sqrt(y)
 
I have y(t) = (t-C)^2 when y>=0. I get the same thing when y<0 as well, by separation of variables. I use t-C rather than t+C thanks to a hint from my professor from yesterday's lecture. So, is this the solution I am looking for?
 
SomeRandomGuy said:
dy/dt = 2*sqrt(abs(y)) = 2*sqrt(y) y>=0, 2*sqrt(-y) y<0
The initial problem was "abs(sqrt(y))" and now you write "sqrt(abs(y))", which one is it?
 
"isn't 2*sqrt(-y) when y<0 = 2*sqrt(y)"

No, it's not. For example if y= -4, 2*sqrt(-y)= 2*sqrt(4)= 4 but
2*sqrt(y)= 2*sqrt(-4)= 4i.
 

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