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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form dx/dt - 2t(2x-1) = 0, with initial conditions specified at t=0 and x=0. Participants are exploring the manipulation of logarithmic and exponential functions in their attempts to find a solution.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the equation, particularly focusing on the use of logarithms and the importance of constants in the solution. There is a suggestion to use absolute values in logarithmic expressions and to reconsider the evaluation of constants before substituting initial conditions.

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The discussion has progressed with some participants offering corrections and alternative approaches to the original poster's method. There is acknowledgment of a successful resolution by one participant, who confirms that their derived expression satisfies the initial conditions. However, the overall conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and methods without a definitive consensus.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of differential equations and initial conditions, with some expressing confusion over the manipulation of terms and the implications of constants in their solutions.

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hi. I have asked for help on this again but i got even more confused. The question says solve:
dx/dt - 2t(2x-1) = 0 when t=0 when x=0.

I did:
0.5 ln(2x-1) = 2t^2 / 2 + K

then i have 2x-1 = 0.5(e^t^2) + K

putting x=0 and t=0 i get:
K=0

thus i have 2x-1 = e^(2t^2)

thus: x=0.5e^(2t^2) + 1

but i know it is wrong because when i put t=0 i do not get x=0

someone please help me. I've been stuck on this coursework for a week! Thank you
 
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0.5 ln(2x-1) = 2t^2 / 2 + K

then i have 2x-1 = 0.5(e^t^2) + K

There is your problem. You can't manipulate the right side and forget the constant. In this case, it will become a constant in front of the exponential.
 
doroulla said:
hi. I have asked for help on this again but i got even more confused. The question says solve:
dx/dt - 2t(2x-1) = 0 when t=0 when x=0.

I did:
0.5 ln(2x-1) = 2t^2 / 2 + K

This should be (1/2)ln|2x-1| =t2 + k, with absolute value signs.

ln|2x-1| = 2t2+2K

|2x-1| = e^{2t^2+2K}=e^{2t^2}e^{2K}

Best not to evaluate the constant yet. Notice that with the absolute value signs, both sides are positive. We can drop the absolute value signs and write:

2x-1 = \pm e^{2K}e^{2t^2} = Ce^{2t^2}

where C is the new constant which can be positive or negative. Now put in your x=0 when t = 0 to evaluate the constant and see if it works.
 
thank you very much. I got it correct now. I found C=-1
so i get: 2x-1 = -e^(2t^2)

thus i get : x= 0.5 - 0.5e^(2t^2)

when i put t=0 in this equation, i get x=0 thus this is correct right? Thank you
 
doroulla said:
thank you very much. I got it correct now. I found C=-1
so i get: 2x-1 = -e^(2t^2)

thus i get : x= 0.5 - 0.5e^(2t^2)

when i put t=0 in this equation, i get x=0 thus this is correct right? Thank you

You don't have to ask me. You know it satisfies the initial conditions. You can always check if you have it correct by substituting it back in the original DE to see if it works. That's a good check against arithmetic errors.
 

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