Solve Impulse Momentum Homework Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving an impulse momentum homework problem involving a mass m1 and a spring. Participants suggest using conservation of energy to find the speed of m1 as it leaves the spring, leading to the equation v1=sqrt(kxc^2/m1), which yields a speed of 1.02 m/s. The integration of force over time is necessary to calculate the momentum change, with hints provided to relate velocity to position. There is a consensus that the problem can be approached without complex integrals, and participants emphasize the importance of accuracy in calculations. The final answers differ from the provided paper, prompting further discussion on potential errors in rounding or assumptions.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


∫Fdt = mvf-mvi



The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried integrating kxcdt from 0 - .01 and haven't had any luck.

I am not quite sure how to go about solving this problem...
 
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mpittma1 said:

Homework Statement


https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/l/t1.0-9/10155336_1407954212814131_2465716609293795371_n.jpg


Homework Equations


∫Fdt = mvf-mvi



The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried integrating kxcdt from 0 - .01 and haven't had any luck.

I am not quite sure how to go about solving this problem...
I don't know where you are getting the t= .01 s from. You are looking for the momentum change of m1 between its start point and the point where it leaves the spring. Try using conservation of energy to solve for the speed of m1 as it leaves the spring.
 
PhanthomJay said:
I don't know where you are getting the t= .01 s from. You are looking for the momentum change of m1 between its start point and the point where it leaves the spring. Try using conservation of energy to solve for the speed of m1 as it leaves the spring.

thank you!

this is what I did:

.5Kxc2=.5m1v12

v1=sqrt(kxc2/m1) = 1.02 m/s

then

∫Fdt = m1v1= 1.02(2.4) = 2.448Ns

Its not the exact same answer as the paper gives though,
any thoughts on that?
 
This looks like a 3 step problem to me. One with no integrals.

Having an inelastic collision means CoE is no good during the collision, but it says nothing about afterwards. You need both conservation of momentum and energy for this one.
 
I haven't worked out the m2 part but I think m2 does not collide with m1 until after m1 is released from the spring. Proceeding with this assumption, which should of course be verified:

No matter, the problem certainly does require an integration. You will need to solve ∫F dt.
Hint: relate v[x(t)] to x(t), the position of m1. Then use a chain rule to solve the integral.

EDIT: thanks folks for reminding me that there is a hard way and an easy way. I certainly took the hard way!
 
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mpittma1 said:
thank you!

this is what I did:

.5Kxc2=.5m1v12

v1=sqrt(kxc2/m1) = 1.02 m/s

then

∫Fdt = m1v1= 1.02(2.4) = 2.448Ns

Its not the exact same answer as the paper gives though,
any thoughts on that?

Do not round too early, too much. v1 is inaccurate.

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