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To solve the equation Mcos^2(x) + Ncos(x) – 3 = 0 for M and N, the given solutions cos(x) = -3/4 and cos(x) = 1/2 can be used to derive the quadratic equation. By treating cos(x) as a variable, one can find the quadratic that corresponds to these solutions. The process involves equating the coefficients of the derived quadratic with those in the original equation. This approach simplifies the problem, eliminating the need for trigonometric identities. The discussion emphasizes that the problem is more algebraic than trigonometric.
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Homework Statement


If cos(x) = -¾ or cos = ½ then the value of M and N in the equation Mcos^2(x) + Ncos(x) – 3 = 0 are what?


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Identities I can use:
csc(x) = 1/sin(x)
cot(x) = 1/tan(x)
sec(x) = 1/cos(x)
tan(x) = sin(x)/cos(x)
cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x)
sin^2(x) +cos^2(x) = 1
1 +tan^2(x) = sec^2(x)
1 +cot^2(x) = csc^2(x)
sin(A+B) = (sinA)(cosB) + (cosA)(sinB)
sin(A-B) = (sinA)(cosB) - (cosA)(sinB)
cos(A+B) = (cosA)(cosB) - (sinA)(sinB)
cos(A-B) = (cosA)(cosB) + (sinA)(sinB)
sin(2A) = 2(sinA)(cosA)
cos(2A) = cos^2A - sin^2A



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Mathhelp77 said:
cos = ½

What is that? Welcome to PF. You need to attempt a solution before we can really help.
 
Alright :) I have kind of a few different things I've been working on and I'm not sure which is right or if any of them are...

I considered using the pythagorean identity to get
-Msin^2(x) + Ncos(x) - 2 = 0

and that is my best guess but that doesn't really make sense cause then I am bringing sin which might make it more difficult :S So... perhaps I have to see what it could factor into?
 
This is not really a trig question, but more of an algebra question. I assume you know how to solve quadratics by factoring. Here's an example:

\begin{aligned}<br /> 3y^2 - y - 4 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> (3y - 4)(y + 1) &amp;= 0 \\<br /> 3y - 4 &amp;= 0 \rightarrow y = 4/3 \\<br /> y + 1 &amp;= 0 \rightarrow y = -1<br /> \end{aligned}

But suppose I gave you the solutions y = 4/3 and y = -1 and I want you to find the quadratic with those solutions. We go "backwards":
\begin{aligned}<br /> y = 4/3 \rightarrow 3y = 4 \rightarrow 3y - 4 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> y = -1 \rightarrow y + 1 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> (3y - 4)(y + 1) &amp;= 0 \\<br /> 3y^2 - y - 4 &amp;= 0<br /> \end{aligned}

You have to do something similar here. You're given the "solutions":
cos x = -3/4 and cos x = 1/2.
Pretend that "cos x" is the variable. Go "backwards" and find the quadratic in terms of cos x. Equate the coefficients with
M\cos^2 x + N\cos x - 3 = 0
to find M and N. That's it! No identities needed.
 
okay that makes sense! Thanks a lot you were a huge help!
 
I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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