Solve Nodal Analysis Differential Equation for I1 with Reference Point under C

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a nodal analysis differential equation for the current I1 in a circuit, specifically with reference to a point under node C. The focus is on the formulation of the equation and the relationships between various circuit components, including inductors and resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in obtaining the differential equation for I1 while using the reference point under C.
  • Another participant suggests that the next step involves adding three currents and equating the result to zero to derive a second-order differential equation, while also indicating that the expression for I1 may be incorrect.
  • A question is raised regarding the nature of Va, whether it is arbitrary or has a specific form, with an assumption that it is a source rather than an output from initial conditions.
  • A participant confirms that I1 is related to an inductor and provides an expression for I1, noting uncertainty about how to incorporate the resistor R into the equation.
  • Further clarification is sought on how to involve the resistor R1 in the equation for I1, with a participant indicating that the potential at the left side of L1 is affected by the presence of R and the current I1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the resistor R in the formulation of the equation for I1, and there is uncertainty regarding the nature of the voltage source Va. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on how to proceed with the analysis.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the problem statement, particularly regarding the definitions and roles of circuit components, as well as the assumptions made about the voltage source Va.

Jair Gutierrez
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Homework Statement


Using nodal analisis we need obtain the differential equation

2. The attempt at a solution


For I1 and take the point under C as reference, but i am stuck on it
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Hi Jair Gutierrez. :welcome:

The next step here is to add those 3 currents, and equate the result to 0; this gives you your second order DE.

You don't have the right expression for I1, the current in an inductor.
 
Is Va entirely arbitrary or does it have some particular form? I'm assuming it's a source rather than the desired output from some initial value conditions of the circuit... the problem statement is rather vague.
 
Hi thanks for your anwers, yes I1 is an inductor,
I1=integral of (Va-V1)/L, but in all this equations where i use the resistor R, i think R is part of I1, but i don't know how write the equation in this case.

Here is the original exercise, 5.15
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In my node i have 3 currents, I1, I2, I3, i think R is part of I1, but how I involve R1 to form part of the equation for I1

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The potential at the left side of L1 is not Va since, as you say the resistor R is between it and the reference node. There will be a potential drop across R due to ##I_1##. So the potential across L1 is going to be something like: ##(-I_1 R + V_a - V_1)##.
 

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