Engineering Solve OpAmp Circuit Using Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving an OpAmp circuit using differential equations. The user presents their derived equations and expresses confusion regarding the correctness of a provided solution, particularly concerning unit consistency. They believe their formulation is more accurate, as it maintains proper dimensional analysis. The conversation also touches on finding characteristic roots by setting the left-hand side of the equation to zero. Overall, the user is seeking clarification on their approach and the validity of their solution compared to the given one.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Nodal Equations
By property of OpAmp, V2=Vo

eq1:\frac{V_{1}-V_{in}}{R_1}+\frac{V_{1}-V_{o}}{R_2}+C_2*(\dot{V_1}-\dot{Vo})
eq2: V_1=C_1R_2\dot{V_o}+V_o

eq3:\dot{V_1}=C_1R_2\ddot{V_o}+\dot{V_o}

Sub 2 & 3 into 1
\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}+V_o-V_{in}}{R_1}+\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}+V_o-V_o}{R_2}+C_2(C_1R_2\ddot{V_o}+\dot{V_o}-\dot{V_o})

Simplify
\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}+V_o-V_{in}}{R_1}+ C_1\dot{V_o}+C_2(C_1R_2\ddot{V_o})

\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}}{R_1}+\frac{V_o}{R_1}-\frac{V_{in}}{R_1}+C_1\dot{V_o}+C_1C_2R_2\ddot{V_o}

\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}}{R_1}+\frac{V_o}{R_1}+C_1\dot{V_o}+C_1C_2R_2\ddot{V_o}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1}

Divide everything by C1C2R2 to single out Vo''
\frac{C_1R_2\dot{V_o}}{C_1C_2R_1R_2}+\frac{V_o}{C_1C_2R_1R_2}+\frac{C_1\dot{V_o}}{C_1C_2R_2}+\frac{C_1C_2R_2\ddot{V_o}}{C_1C_2R_2}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1C_1C_2R_2}

Simplify
\frac{\dot{V_o}}{R_1C_2}+\frac{V_o}{C_1C_2R_1R_2}+\frac{\dot{V_o}}{C_2R_2}+\ddot{V_o}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1C_1C_2R_2}
Rearrange
\ddot{V_o}+\frac{\dot{V_o}}{R_1C_2}+\frac{\dot{V_o}}{C_2R_2}+\frac{V_o}{C_1C_2R_1R_2}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1C_1C_2R_2}<br />

This is the correct solution:
\ddot{V_o}+\frac{\dot{V_o}}{R_1R_2}+\frac{V_o}{R_1R_2C_1C_2}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1}

What am I doing wrong?
 
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I did a quick check and I have to say I'm liking your solution better than the "correct" solution. The units don't look right in their solution:

$$\frac{[V]}{[ s ]^2} + \frac{[V]}{[Ω]^2[ s ]} + \frac{[V]}{[ s ]^2} = \frac{[V]}{[Ω]}$$
 
gneill said:
I did a quick check and I have to say I'm liking your solution better than the "correct" solution. The units don't look right in their solution:

$$\frac{[V]}{[ s ]^2} + \frac{[V]}{[Ω]^2[ s ]} + \frac{[V]}{[ s ]^2} = \frac{[V]}{[Ω]}$$
I typed it wrong, correct (given) solution should be this:
<br /> \ddot{V_o}+\frac{\dot{V_o}}{R_1C_2}+\frac{V_o}{R_1R_2C_1C_2}=\frac{V_{in}}{R_1}
 
Still don't like their solution. The RHS has V/Ω for units (so a current). The LHS is all V/s2.
 
gneill said:
Still don't like their solution. The RHS has V/Ω for units (so a current). The LHS is all V/s2.
So mine looks right?
 
eehelp150 said:
So mine looks right?
I believe so, yes.
 
gneill said:
I believe so, yes.
If I want to find characteristic roots, I set LHS = 0 and solve, correct?
So it'd look something like:
d^2 + 2/(R1C2)*d+1/(R1R2C1C2)=0
D1=..., D2=...
 
Something like that, yes. You probably want to collect your to Vo' terms into a single term. Unless R1 = R2 they have different denominators.
 

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