Solve Rotational Friction Problem with Steel Rod & Balls

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The problem involves a thin steel rod with attached balls rotating about a vertical axis, experiencing friction that causes it to slow down. The discussion centers on calculating angular acceleration, retarding torque, energy transfer due to friction, and the number of revolutions during deceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the moment of inertia, questioning the method of combining the masses of the rod and balls. There is exploration of the correct expression for the moment of inertia and how to account for the system's components.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the calculation of the moment of inertia, suggesting a more accurate approach to include the contributions from both the rod and the attached balls. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the original calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's calculations were found to be incorrect according to the homework website, prompting further discussion on the proper method for determining the moment of inertia and related quantities.

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Homework Statement



Attached to each end of a thin steel rod of length 1.00 m and mass 6.80 kg is a small ball of mass 1.15 kg. The rod is constrained to rotate in a horizontal plane about a vertical axis through its midpoint. At a certain instant, it is rotating at 43.0 rev/s. Because of friction, it slows to a stop in 25.0 s. Assuming a constant retarding torque due to friction, compute (a) the angular acceleration, (b) the retarding torque, (c) the total energy transferred from mechanical energy to thermal energy by friction, and (d) the number of revolutions rotated during the 25.0 s.

Homework Equations



K = Kf - Ki = (1/2)Iwf^2 - (1/2)IWi^2 = W
T = Ia (a = angular acceleration)

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the angular acceleration to be -10.816 rad / s^2
and the number of revolutions to be 537.42 rev

For torque i used the equation T=Ia where I = 1/12ML^2 where M is the total mass of the balls attached to each end of the rod plus the mass of the rod itself which is a total of 9.10 kg. I got T = -8.202 [N m] and for the work I used the work equation but got a really high solution which was -27723 J.

Both are wrong according to my homework's website
 
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You can't just add the masses of the balls to the mass of the rod the way you did. The moment of inertia of the system is the moment of inertia of the rod (1/12)ML2 to which you add the moments of inertia of the two masses m(L/2)2+m(L/2)2.
 
so would m be half the mass of the rod plus the mass of one ball?
 
No. M in my expression is the mass of the rod (6.80 kg) and m is the mass of one ball (1.15 kg). Then

[tex]I=\frac{1}{12}ML^2+2 \times m(\frac{L}{2})^2[/tex]

where L = 1.0 m.
 
Thank you!
 

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