Solving a Rocket Launch Problem: Find the Fuel Mass Fraction

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The discussion centers on calculating the fuel mass fraction required for a sounding rocket to achieve a final speed of 1000 m/s, given an exhaust speed of 2000 m/s. The user rewrites the provided formula and performs calculations, arriving at a fuel mass fraction of approximately 0.60653. Concerns are raised about the omission of gravitational effects, but the instructions clarify that these can be ignored during the rapid burn. The final understanding is that the fuel fraction is derived by subtracting the mass ratio from one, confirming the calculation's validity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the formula and the assumptions in the problem.
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Did I do this right? I'm relying on a formula the teacher gave us in class, without quite understanding it intuitively. So I'm just rewriting the formula to solve for my unknown and plugging in numbers.

A sounding rocket launched from Earth’s surface is to achieve a final speed of 1000 m/s. If the exhaust speed of the spent fuel is 2000 m/s, what fraction of the rocket’s total mass at launch must be fuel? (Assume that the engine burns rapidly enough that you may ignore any effects due to Earth’s gravity during the burn.)
<br /> \[<br /> v_f =v_i +v_{ex} \ln \left[ {\frac{m_i }{m_f }} \right]<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> v_f -v_i =v_{ex} \ln \left[ {\frac{m_i }{m_f }} \right]<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \ln \left[ {\frac{m_i }{m_f }} \right]=\frac{v_f -v_i }{v_{ex} }<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \ln \left[ {\frac{m_i }{m_f }} \right]=\frac{1000m/s-0m/s}{2000m/s}<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \ln \left[ {\frac{m_i }{m_f }} \right]=0.5<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \ln ^{-1}\left[ {0.5} \right]=1.6487<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \frac{m_i }{m_f }=1.67487<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \frac{m_f }{m_i }=\frac{1}{1.67487}<br /> \]<br /> \[<br /> \frac{m_f }{m_i }=0.60653<br /> \]<br />
 
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Im not sure if that's right since gravity is not taken into account. You need to account for the force on the rocket caused by gravity as it is going up.

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Nenad
 
The instructions said to "Assume that the engine burns rapidly enough that you may ignore any effects due to Earth’s gravity during the burn"
 
tony873004 said:
The instructions said to "Assume that the engine burns rapidly enough that you may ignore any effects due to Earth’s gravity during the burn"

Your calculation looks OK to me as long as you remember that the answer is 1-\frac{m_f }{m_i }.
 
Janitor said:
Your calculation looks OK to me as long as you remember that the answer is 1-\frac{m_f }{m_i }.
That makes sense. The fraction represents the ratio of the rocket before and after, not the fuel, so subtracting it from 1 which represents the full rocket gives me the fuel ratio.

Thanks guys.
 
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