Solving a System of Equations for Pulley Accelerations and Tensions

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of equations to determine the accelerations and tensions in a pulley system involving multiple masses. The user initially set up four equations but struggled with discrepancies between their results and those in a reference book. Adjustments were made to account for the mass of the second pulley and the forces acting on it, leading to a revised set of equations. After recalculating, the user found their results for acceleration and tension aligned with the book's answers. The final values were confirmed as correct, resolving the initial confusion.
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You have a puley on which a light string passes. At one end ofthe string a mass of 5 Kg is attached and on the other end another pulley of mass 1 Kg is attached. A second light string passes over this second pulley. At the extremities of this string two masses of 2 and 1 Kg are attached. Calculate the accelerations of the masses and the tension in the two strings.

I attempted this problem, solving a system of 4 equations:
pulley: 1(9.8)-(T1-T2)= a
5Kg mass: 5(9.8)-T1=-5a
1Kg mass: 1(9.8)-T2=-(f-a)
2Kg mass: 2(9.8)-T2=(f+a) where a=acceleration of 5 Kg mass
F=acceleration of the 1 and 2 Kg masses relative to the second pulley
T1= tension in the first string
T2 Tension in the second string
Where is my mistake?
 
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Why do you think you made a mistake?
 
because i don't get the same reult given in the Book
 
Thank you gnome, but in my problem the second pulley has a mass of 1 Kg.this should complicate the problem . . . I think
 
Chiara,
from what you wrote, I think I can deduce the following:
You assume a to be positive if 5kg mass goes up.
You assume f to be positive if 1kg mass goes up.
Right?

OK, if so, I have the following changes (let g = 9.8):
pulley: 1g -(T1 - 2T2) = a
I inserted the factor 2 because each of the two branches of the string exerts a downward force of T2 on the pulley.
5kg mass: 5g - T1 = -5a (as you said.)
1kg mass: 1g - T2 = -(f-a) (as you said).
2kg mass: 2g - T2 = 2(f+a)
I inserted the factor 2 because of Newton's law F = ma, so we must have the mass on the RHS.

Is this in better accordance with the book?
 
I get a=-2/13 g, f=+5/13 g. Is that correct?
 
yes your answers are correct, Thank you!
 

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