Solving a Vector Problem with Cosine Law: Finding Magnitude and Angle Relations

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The discussion centers on solving a vector problem using the cosine law, highlighting its effectiveness in quickly determining magnitude and angle relations. The initial approach involved vector algebra, leading to the derivation of equations for the angle φ between vectors u and v, and the magnitude of v. Despite some numerical discrepancies in the angle calculation, the magnitude of vector v was correctly identified. A suggestion was made to establish a coordinate system for clearer calculations, positioning vector u along the x-axis. Overall, the cosine law is emphasized as a reliable method for solving such vector problems.
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The sum of 2 vectors ##\vec u## and ##\vec v## has length ##|\vec u + \vec v|=10##, and its angle with one of the vectors is 35°, which` s lenght is 12. Find the lenght of the remaining vector and the angle between ##\vec u## and ##\vec v##.
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$$\langle \vec u,\vec v \rangle = |\vec u||\vec v|cos(\theta)$$
Okay, so the answer is quite easy if you draw a diagram and notice that cosine law solves everything rapidly. But at first, I tried doing some vector algebra and apply properties to see if I could get to something. This is what I could develop.

Consider ##|\vec u|##=12, then $$\langle \vec u,(\vec u + \vec v) \rangle = 120 \cos(35º)$$
but ##\langle \vec u,(\vec u + \vec v) \rangle = |\vec u|^2+\langle \vec u, \vec v \rangle## so: $$\langle \vec u, \vec v \rangle =120 \cos(35º)-144$$

Now let's call the angle between ##\vec u## and ##\vec v## :##\phi##. Then the angle between ##\vec v## and ## \vec u + \vec v## = ##\phi -35º##, and now we can get a system of equations for ##\phi## and ##|\vec v|##:
1) $$ \langle \vec v,(\vec u + \vec v) \rangle = \langle \vec v,\vec u \rangle + |\vec v|^2= 10|\vec v|\cos(\phi-35º)$$
2) $$ \langle \vec u, \vec v \rangle = 12 |\vec v|\cos(\phi)$$
Maple returns ##\phi##=2.3... (but correct answer is 123.6...) and ##|\vec v|=6.8...## which only ##|\vec v|## is correct (I had to use numeric solver). I know this is kind of overkill, but any approach to this problem would be great, thanks!
 
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Certainly the cosine law works nicely. If you don't want to use it, set up a coordinate system so that vector u, with length 12 lies along the x-axis: u= <12, 0>. The sum of u and v, which has length 10 and is 35 degrees above u, so 35 degrees above the x-axis is u+ v= <10 cos(35), 10 sin(35)>. So v= <10 cos(35), 10 sin(35)>- u= <10 cos(35), 10 sin(35)>- <12, 0>= <10cos(35)- 12, 10sin(35_)>.
 
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