Solving Ampere's Law Homework with Curve C

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This discussion focuses on the application of Ampere's Law in magnetostatics, specifically regarding the implications of a zero circulation of the magnetic field B along a curve C. It is established that a zero circulation does not necessarily imply B=0 at points on curve C, as the B-field can be perpendicular to the curve. Additionally, the choice of surface S for applying Ampere's Law depends on whether a current penetrates the boundary C; only currents that pass through C should be considered for calculating enclosed current.

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Homework Statement


In Ampere's Law, we consider an amperian loop (suppose a curve C), and any surface with boundary C can be chosen.
1.If the circulation of B is zero along the curve. Does this directly imply B=0 at points on the curve C?

2.Also in some cases there may be surfaces with boundary C through which a current can penetrate while through others not. Which surface will we take?

Homework Equations


<br /> \oint \vec{B} \cdot \vec{dr} = \mu_0 \ I_{enclosed}<br />



The Attempt at a Solution


1.I don't think so since the B-field can be perpendicular to the points of C and thus even if B is present the circulation comes 0. However, if in a problem we have to show that B at a point is 0, how can we do it using Ampere's Law?

2. I think that if a current does not pass through the boundary C, we should take enclosed current=0. Only a current passing through C and penetrating S should be taken into account.(I think)

Please help.Thanks
 
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saubhik said:
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2.Also in some cases there may be surfaces with boundary C through which a current can penetrate while through others not. Which surface will we take?
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The Attempt at a Solution



2. I think that if a current does not pass through the boundary C, we should take enclosed current=0. Only a current passing through C and penetrating S should be taken into account.(I think)

Please help.Thanks
This does not answer the second question.

If there's a choice? Which surface should you take?
 
SammyS said:
This does not answer the second question.

If there's a choice? Which surface should you take?

If a current does pass through a curve C (we are dealing with magnetostatics so no question of any change in electric fields) then it must also penetrate through surface S.
But my problem is: what if a current does not pass through C but penetrates S? Clearly there's a B-field at all points on the loop, but I_{enclosed}=0, so that circulation comes 0.

Here, S is any surface with boundary C.
 

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