Solving Bat Doppler Effect Homework Problem

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To solve the bat's Doppler effect homework problem, the bat emits a sound while flying towards a wall at 19.5 m/s and hears the echo 0.15 seconds later. The speed of sound is given as 343 m/s, leading to a total distance traveled by sound of 51.45 meters. The bat covers a distance of 2.93 meters in the same time. The correct approach involves setting up equations for the distances traveled by both the bat and the sound, allowing for the calculation of the initial distance to the wall. The final answer indicates that the bat was approximately half the initially calculated distance from the wall when it received the echo.
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Homework Statement


A bat, flying at a constant speed of 19.5 m/s in a straight line toward a vertical cave wall, makes a single clicking noise and hears the echo 0.15 s later. Assuming that she continued flying at her original speed, how close was she to the wall when she received the echo? Assume a speed of 343 m/s for the speed of sound.


Homework Equations



The only equation we were given is speed= change of d/time

The Attempt at a Solution



i took the speed of sound 343*.15s to get 51.45
then i took the speed of the bat 19.5*.15s to get 2.93

then i subtracted the two and got 48.52


this doesn't not seem right any suggestions?


Thank you !
 
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Welcome to PF, Merf!
Clever of you to figure out that the bat goes 2.9 m and the sound goes 51.5m. I didn't see that and did something much more complicated for nothing.

But you have oversimplified the last step.
Say the initial distance to the wall is x. Then the sound goes distance x on the way to the wall plus x - 2.9 on the way back. If you total that up and set it equal to 51.5, you'll be able to find x and then have only a small step to get the answer, which is about half the answer you had.
 
In the given time ( 0.15 s) the noise travels x m in forward direction and y m in reverse direction. So
0.15 = (x+y)/Vs. where Vs is the velocity of the sound.
The bat travels (x-y) m. So
0.15 = (x-y)/Vb, where Vb is the velocity of the bat.

Now solve for x and y. Required answer is y.
 
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