Solving Cartesian Vectors in Mechanics: Expressing Force F(AB) in Cartesian Form

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The discussion revolves around expressing the force F(AB) in Cartesian vector form, with participants analyzing the components and signs of the vector based on given coordinates and calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correctness of the calculated components of the force vector and the significance of rounding and significant figures in their results. There are questions about the interpretation of the problem statement and the accuracy of the unit vector.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered feedback on the calculations, noting potential rounding errors and the importance of maintaining precision in intermediate results. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly round the results based on significant figures.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of rounding based on the significant figures indicated in the problem statement, which may affect the final presentation of their answers.

Robb
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Homework Statement


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Express force F(AB) in cartesian vector form[/B]
Mastering engineering.com says to check my signs but I don't an see an issue. Please help!

2. Homework Equations 3. The Attempt at a Solution

A(0, -.75, 3) B(2cos40, 2sin40, 0) C(2,-1, 0)

r(
AB)= 1.53i +2.04j-3k
r(magnitude)= 3.94

u(ab)= .388i + .518j - 3k
F(AB)= 97i +130j - 190k
 
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Your work looks correct to me. (You have a typo in the z-component of the unit vector u.)
 
What is the question?
 
andrewkirk said:
What is the question?
It's just below the figure.
 
Masteringengineering.com says to check my signs. I do not see anything wrong with them. We are asked to express the force F(AB) as a cartesian vector.
 
TSny said:
It's just below the figure.
Ah - I was fooled by the bold text. Because of the template format, I just automatically process anything in bold in these questions as a heading and it doesn't even register on my consciousness.
 
So, what do you think?
 
Your results look fine. I might have rounded the results a bit differently, but your signs are certainly correct.
 
Thank you!
 
  • #10
How would you have rounded it. The site is now telling me I have a rounding error. I went through my numbers again and went out to 100 thousandths place. The only change I get is that i=97.1?
 
  • #11
Now that I've looked again at the problem statement I can see that there's a bit of a question about how many significant figures to use. Many of the distances are given as a single digit with no decimal indicated, but at least one has two decimal places (0.75 m). So do we round to one significant figure or assume that the single digit numbers were really measured to two decimals of accuracy but were shown as single digits for aesthetic reasons on the figure?

My own choice would be to round to two significant figures as you've done in your first post, but there's an argument to be made for rounding to one sig fig!
 
  • #12
The problem says to round to 3 sig-figs and I entered 97.1i +130j -190k
 
  • #13
Robb said:
The problem says to round to 3 sig-figs and I entered 97.1i +130j -190k
Okay then. What were your unrounded results to three decimals?
 
  • #14
97.1475I + 129.53j - 190.485k
 
  • #15
Robb said:
97.1475I + 129.53j - 190.485k
Did you round or truncate any of your intermediate results to five or fewer digits? I'm seeing slightly different values that could affect your rounding to three figures.

Generally I keep all intermediate values to full precision in calculator memory (or let a software package hold them in variables) and only round for presentation. This prevents rounding and truncation errors from creeping into the significant figure zone.

Before rounding and to three decimals I'm seeing values: 97.316; 129.297; -190.556
 
  • #16
ok. I got it. Guess I better play it safe and don't round till the end huh. Thanks so much!
 

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