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The discussion revolves around modeling an armature-controlled DC motor with frictional damping, focusing on the transfer function expressed as ωout/Vin = k/(L(s)+R)(I(s)+C)+ kt.k. Participants clarify the meaning of "kt.k" as a product of constants related to motor properties and discuss the system's damping characteristics. Suggestions include using numerical values to determine if the system is over- or under-damped and employing Laplace tables for analysis. The conversation also touches on the dimensions of the constants and the relevance of the time constant in the context of the transfer function. Overall, the thread seeks assistance in performing a partial fraction expansion for an inverse Laplace transform.
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i have come here to ask for help.
i am trying to model a armature controlled dc motor with no load but and opposite force in the form of frictional damping

the expression i have raised and am assuming it to be right is

ωout/Vin = k/(L(s)+R)(I(s)+C)+ kt.k


where K,kt are constants
L inductance
I inertia

R resistance armature circuit
C damping

the reference voltage is 25 volts. i really need i think a partial fraction expansion of this to allow me to do the inverse laplace transform

any body out there can you help me please?

thanks people. :smile:
 
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What does "kt.k" mean? Is it kt multiplied by k which you can write as (kt)(k)?

Ω(s)/V(s) = k/[(sL+R)(sI+C)+ (kt)(k)] ?

The denominator is a second-order response. I would put in numbers to determine if this is an over- or under-damped system , then use Laplace tables. If you use partial fraction expansion that is OK but you'd better know how to handle the complex fractions.
 
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Hey rude man, thanks for getting back

Yes you are correct k and Kt and yes they can be expressed in the form you have shown. They relate to the properties and generated emf. I think but am not sure that they are possible the time constant for the circuit the "Tau" value any ideas?
 
ATRIX said:
Hey rude man, thanks for getting back

Yes you are correct k and Kt and yes they can be expressed in the form you have shown. They relate to the properties and generated emf. I think but am not sure that they are possible the time constant for the circuit the "Tau" value any ideas?

k*Kt would have to have dimension = T (time). But if your denominator is consistent, k*Kt has the dimensions RIT-1 = RMLT-1.

Anyway, if you believe your transfer function is correct, why are you speculating about a time constant? Do you have numbers for K and Kt including their units?
 

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