Solving for Amplitude and delta

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The problem involves a simple harmonic oscillator with a given frequency and specific velocity measurements at two different times. The task is to determine the amplitude and phase shift from the provided equations of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the amplitude and phase shift using the velocity equations at two time points. Some participants suggest dividing the equations to isolate variables, while others question the process of expanding the sine function in the context of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different methods to manipulate the equations. There is a focus on clarifying the steps involved in expanding the sine function, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the manipulation of the sine function and its implications for solving the equations. The original poster expresses confusion about the phase shift term in the equations.

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Homework Statement


A simple harmonic oscillator has a frequency of 3.4 Hz. It is oscillating along x, where x(t) = A cos(ωt + δ). You are given the velocity at two moments: v(t=0) = 1.8 cm/s and v(t=.1) = -19.3 cm/s.

1)Calculate A.
2)Calculate δ.

Homework Equations


w= 2pi*f = 21.36 rad/s
v(t) = -wAsin(wt +δ)

The Attempt at a Solution



1) v(0) = -21.36*A*sin(w0 +δ) =1.8 cm/s
1.8/[-21.36*sin(δ)]=A
Solved for A and substituted that into 2nd equation A
v(.1) = -21.36*A*sin(21.36*.1 +δ) =-19.3 cm/s
-21.36*(1.8/[-21.36*sin(21.36*0 +δ)])*sin(21.36*.1 +δ) =-19.3 cm/s
1.8*sin(δ)*sin(.1 +δ)=-19.3 cm/s
sin(δ)*sin(21.36*.1 +δ)=-10.72
from here is where I am not really sure what to do that 21.36*.1+δ throws me off
 
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-21.36*A*sin( +δ) =1.8 cm/s ...(1)
-21.36*A*sin(w*0.1 +δ) = - 19.3 cm/s...(2)
Divide (2) by (1). Expand sin(w*0.1 +δ) and simplify. You will get the value of delta. From that you can get amplitude.
 
what exactly do you mean by expand sin(w*0.1 +δ) that's where i got lost last time
 
sin(A+B) = sinAcosB + cosAsinB
 

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