Solving for t in SHM (complex solution)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in simple harmonic motion (SHM), specifically focusing on finding the time variable \( t \) when the position \( x(t) \) equals zero. The original poster presents a function involving both cosine and sine terms and seeks assistance in solving for \( t \).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to rearrange the equation to isolate terms involving trigonometric functions. They express uncertainty about whether their approach using inverse tangent is valid in this context and question the completeness of their solution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem. One participant offers a hint to rearrange the equation, while another points out that the original poster's solution may only represent one of many possible solutions. The discussion is exploring the implications of periodicity in SHM.

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The original poster clarifies that they are specifically looking for the time when the mass passes through the equilibrium position heading downward for the second time, indicating a focus on a particular aspect of the motion rather than a general solution.

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Hey guys, this is my first post, I was hoping you all could offer some advice. I'm facing a problem involving free undamped SHM. Everything is working out well so far but I ran into a problem when trying to find t. Here's what I have:

x(t) = -2/3cos10t + 1/2sin10t

Now, if I want to find the times when x(t) = 0... how would I go about that? In a similar problem that only involved a single term, I was able to use cos^-1 to solve for t, but in this case would that still hold? Setting x(t) to 0 I get:

0 = -2/3cos10t + 1/2sin10t

But now I'm stuck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hi mouser! Welcome to PF! :smile:

mouser said:
0 = -2/3cos10t + 1/2sin10t

Hint: how might you re-arrange this equation? :smile:

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Thanks!

If I rearrange it to be:

2/3cos10t = 1/2sin10t

4/3cot10t = 1

3/4tan10t = 1

tan10t = 4/3

t = (tan^-1(4/3))/10

The answer is incorrect. Did I make a mistake in that algebra? Thank you for your help!
 
mouser said:
t = (tan^-1(4/3))/10

Looks ok to me!

Except you only have one solution … there should be infinitely many … what are the others? :smile:

(What were you actually asked for? Was it the times, or the period?)
 
The question was "at what time does the mass pass through the equilibrium position heading downward for the second time?"

I just figured out where I went wrong. The answer I got previously was only partially correct. For the correct answer I added the value for one full period and it checks out! eureka!

Thanks tiny-tim!
 

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