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The discussion focuses on solving a sinusoidal function homework problem involving the equation e(t) = A * sin(wt + fi). The user initially miscalculated the angular frequency (omega) and the phase shift (fi), leading to confusion about their values. Clarifications highlight that the phase difference is not simply -0.4 radians, as this would incorrectly suggest the sine wave is approaching zero too soon. Alternative calculations suggest different values for omega, with emphasis on understanding the sine function's behavior and its zero crossings. The conversation underscores the importance of accurately interpreting phase shifts and their implications on the sinusoidal graph.
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Okay I feel really stupid for getting wrong omega for such a trivial problem.

1. Homework Statement

Find the function of e(t) = A* sin(wt + fi)

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The Attempt at a Solution


A = 0.9 V
at t = 0 e(t) = -0.35, and therefore:
-0.35 = 0.9 * sin (w*0 + fi) / * arcsin
arcsin(-7/18)= fi
fi = -22.89 degrees = -0.4 rad

at t = 26 us , A = 0 V, and therefore:
0 = 0.9 * sin (w*26u -0.4 ) / *arcsin
0 = w*26 u - 0.4
w = 0.4/26 * 10 ^- 6
w = 15384 rad / s which is not correct
 

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Your phase difference between the points is not 0.4 rad. Be careful with multiples of pi. The -0.4 rad would mean you are approaching the (arbitrary) phase 0 soon. That is not true. Zero is where the curve goes from negative to positive, that is more than pi rad to the left or a 0.4 rad less than pi to the right.
 
mfb said:
Your phase difference between the points is not 0.4 rad. Be careful with multiples of pi. The -0.4 rad would mean you are approaching the (arbitrary) phase 0 soon. That is not true. Zero is where the curve goes from negative to positive, that is more than pi rad to the left or a 0.4 rad less than pi to the right.
Yes this is also bothering me - 0.4 rad = - 22 degrees ,it would mean sinusoide is 'moved' to the right for 22 degrees out of phase, also I look it this way like judging from picture, sine is moved from the phase of function -Asin(wt) = A*sin(wt+180) to the left for 22 degrees so it's Asin(wt+202 degrees) ,then I get that omega is w= 136197 rad/s
 
Your phase advances from "0.4 after a zero crossing" to "pi after this zero crossing", so pi-0.4.
Alternatively, from pi+0.4 (an alternative solution for the sine) to 2 pi (also an alternative solution), which gives the same difference.
This difference is your numerator.
 
I get that w= 105445.87 s^-1 ,but I don't understand why did I get as a result 0.4 rad,how can we prove this mathematically by equations,not just looking from graph.
 
Well, a sine reaches the same value (apart from 1 and -1) twice per oscillation. You have to "look at the graph" (or know the derivative at this point) to figure out which one applies to your case.
 
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