Solving Newton's 2nd Law: 5kg Mass, 60N Tension

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The discussion centers on calculating the acceleration of two 5 kg buckets connected by a rope with a tension of 60 N. While one participant questions whether to consider the total mass of 10 kg or just the 5 kg of the lower bucket, it is clarified that the acceleration can be determined by analyzing the lower bucket alone. The tension in the rope reflects the force acting on the lower bucket, allowing for the calculation of its acceleration without needing to account for both buckets simultaneously. If the top bucket were a different mass, the same method could still be applied by adjusting the calculations accordingly. Understanding the dynamics of the system is crucial for accurate results in similar scenarios.
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Homework Statement


Two buckets of nails are hung on above the other and are pulled up to a roof by a rope. Each bucket has a mass of 5.0 kg. The tension in the rope connecting the buckets is 60 N. Calculate the acceleration of the buckets.


Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Here is my work:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3691/fbd2ke5.jpg​

I got the answer right, but I don't know why mass is equal to 5kg. Shouldn't it be equal to 10kg, because there are two masses of 5kg?
 
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The ropes are attached together so they are going to accelerate at the same rate. It looks like what you did up there is find the acceleration for the lower bucket. 60N is the tension in the rope connecting the buckets, but not the force the top bucket is being pulled up with, since some force will accelerate the top bucket, and then what's leftover will go into the rope. So, the work you have there is essentially finding the acceleration for the lower bucket, but this is ok, since the buckets are going to accelerate at the same rate.
 
But if the top bucket is a different mass than 5 kg, could I still use the same procedure that I used in this question, to find the acceleration of the buckets? Also, do I need to use both masses in my calculation when solving for acceleration?
 
Can someone help me some more on this question please?
 
temaire said:
But if the top bucket is a different mass than 5 kg, could I still use the same procedure that I used in this question, to find the acceleration of the buckets?
yes
Also, do I need to use both masses in my calculation when solving for acceleration?
If you look at the bottom bucket only in a free body diagram, as you have done, and as GO1 has noted, you get the acceleration without having to look at both buckets togeteher. Once you determine that acceleration, you can find the force in the upper rope, if you wish, using both masses together in your FBD.
 
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