Solving Schrodinger Equation: xav, (x2)av, Δx

In summary, the conversation discusses finding xav, (x2)av, and Δx using the ground-state wave function of the simple harmonic oscillator. The normalization constant A is also provided. The attempt at a solution includes calculating xav and (x2)av, but the proposed wave function is incorrect and should instead use the first Hermite polynomial. The correct form for the wave function is \psi (x) = (\frac{m\omega }{\pi \overline{h}})^{1/4}e^{\frac{-m\omega}{2\overline{h}}x^2}.
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Homework Statement


Use the ground-state wave function of the simple harmonic oscillator to find xav, (x2)av, and [tex]\Delta x[/tex]. Use the normalization constant [tex]A=(\frac{m\omega _0}{\overline{h} \pi })^{1/4}[/tex]

Homework Equations


[tex]\psi (x) = Asin(kx)[/tex]
[tex](f(x))_{av} = \int ^{\infty }_{-\infty } \left| \psi (x) \right| ^2 f(x) dx [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated out [tex]x_{av}[/tex] as
[tex]x_{av} = \int ^{\infty }_{-\infty } \left| \psi (x) \right| ^2 x dx[/tex]
[tex]x_{av} = A \int ^{\infty }_{-\infty } xsin^2 (kx) dx[/tex]
[tex]x_{av} = A (x^2/4 - (cos(2kx))/(8k^2) - (xsin(2kx))/(4k))\right| ^{\infty}_{-\infty}[/tex]
[tex]x_{av} = 0[/tex]

I think that is right...but I am having trouble calculating [tex](x^2)_{av}[/tex]
[tex](x^2)_{av} = \int ^{\infty }_{-\infty } \left| \psi (x) \right| ^2 x^2 dx[/tex]
[tex](x^2)_{av} = A \int ^{\infty }_{-\infty } x^2 sin^2 (kx) dx[/tex]
[tex](x^2)_{av} = A (x^3/6 - (xcos(2kx))/(4k^2) - ((-1+2k^2x^2)sin(2kx))/(8k^2))\right| ^{\infty}_{-\infty}[/tex]
But this says [tex](x^2)_{av} = \infty [/tex]

which I don't think is correct...
 
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Wrong wave function; that's not the ground state of a harmonic oscillator.

Also, [tex]cos(kx)[/tex] as [tex]x\rightarrow \pm \infty[/tex] is undefined; so a plane wave wave function isn't normalizable over infinite space. That's an important result too, though.
 
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alxm said:
Wrong wave function; that's not the ground state of a harmonic oscillator.

Also, [tex]cos(kx)[/tex] as [tex]x\rightarrow \pm \infty[/tex] is undefined; so a plane wave wave function isn't normalizable over infinite space. That's an important result too, though.

Is this this correct ground state?
[tex]\psi (x) = (\frac{m\omega }{\pi \overline{h}})^{1/4}e^{\frac{-m\omega}{2\overline{h}}x}[/tex]
 
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That is not the wave function for the ground state, you should use the hermite polynomials.
 
  • #5
Dorilian said:
That is not the wave function for the ground state, you should use the hermite polynomials.

The first Hermite polynomial equals 1. So yes, it's correct.
 
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CornMuffin said:
Is this this correct ground state?
[tex]\psi (x) = (\frac{m\omega }{\pi \overline{h}})^{1/4}e^{\frac{-m\omega}{2\overline{h}}x}[/tex]

You forgot a square in the argument of the exponential, it's [tex]\exp(-m\omega/(2 \hbar) x^2)[/tex].
(and for the LaTeX: it's \hbar, not \overline h)
 

Related to Solving Schrodinger Equation: xav, (x2)av, Δx

1. What is the Schrodinger Equation?

The Schrodinger Equation is a fundamental equation in quantum mechanics that describes the behavior and evolution of a quantum system over time.

2. How is the Schrodinger Equation used to solve for xav?

The Schrodinger Equation can be solved for the expectation value of position (xav) by taking the integral of the wave function multiplied by the position operator.

3. How is (x2)av calculated using the Schrodinger Equation?

The (x2)av, or the expectation value of position squared, is calculated by taking the integral of the wave function multiplied by the position squared operator.

4. What is Δx in relation to the Schrodinger Equation?

Δx, or the uncertainty in position, is a result of the Schrodinger Equation that arises from the wave nature of particles in quantum mechanics. It represents the range of possible positions that a particle can occupy.

5. Can the Schrodinger Equation be applied to all quantum systems?

Yes, the Schrodinger Equation can be applied to all quantum systems, regardless of their complexity. However, for certain systems, it may be difficult or even impossible to find exact solutions to the equation, and approximations must be made.

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