Solving second order linear homogeneous differential equation

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The problem involves finding the set of functions that satisfy a second order linear homogeneous differential equation of the form (x² - 1)y'' + xy' - 4y = 0, with the domain specified as (-1, 1). The original poster expresses uncertainty in approaching this equation, particularly since their previous experiences involved constant functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss a suggested change of variable, x = cos(θ), and its implications for the derivatives of y. There are attempts to rearrange the equation and questions about the relevance of the hint provided. Some participants express confusion regarding the correct application of the substitution and the resulting forms of the equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the substitution and its correctness. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the rearrangement of the equation and the implications of the change of variable. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct form of the derivatives after substitution, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have previously encountered problems with constant functions, which may influence their understanding of this differential equation. There is also mention of potential errors in the application of the change of variable, indicating a need for careful consideration of the transformation process.

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Homework Statement



Find the set of functions from [itex](-1,1)→ℝ[/itex] which are solutions of:

[itex](x^{2}-1)y''+xy'-4y = 0[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



OK, I'm not really sure how to go about solving this equation, I have only previously attempted problems where the functions in [itex]x[/itex] are constant.

There is a hint which says to use the change of variable:
[itex]x=cos(θ)[/itex]

doing this I get:

(1): [itex](cos^{2}(θ)-1)y''+cos(θ)y'-4y = 0[/itex]

which can be rearranged to give:

(2): [itex]sin^{2}(θ)y''-cos(θ)y'+4y = 0[/itex]
or
(3): [itex](\frac{cos(2θ)-1}{2})y''+cos(θ)y'-4y = 0[/itex]

No idea what to do next!
Any pointers would be great, thank you!
 
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Looks like Heun's Differential Equation to me.
 
I've never come across that before :/

How can I use that to solve it?

rearrange to give:

[itex]y''+\frac{x}{(x+1)(x-1)}y'-\frac{4}{(x+1)(x-1)} = 0[/itex] ?

Then I can't see why the change of variable hint has been given.
 
the0 said:

Homework Statement



Find the set of functions from [itex](-1,1)→ℝ[/itex] which are solutions of:

[itex](x^{2}-1)y''+xy'-4y = 0[/itex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



OK, I'm not really sure how to go about solving this equation, I have only previously attempted problems where the functions in [itex]x[/itex] are constant.

There is a hint which says to use the change of variable:
[itex]x=cos(θ)[/itex]

doing this I get:

(1): [itex](cos^{2}(θ)-1)y''+cos(θ)y'-4y = 0[/itex]
This is completely wrong. You have replaced x with [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex] but you have left y' and y'' as derivatives with respect to x.
If [itex]x= cos(\theta)[/itex] then [itex]\theta= cos^{-1}(x)[/itex] so that
[tex]\frac{d\theta}{dx}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{1- x^2}}[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{dy}{d\theta}\frac{d\theta}{dx}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{1- x^2}}\frac{dy}{d\theta}[/tex]

which can be rearranged to give:

(2): [itex]sin^{2}(θ)y''-cos(θ)y'+4y = 0[/itex]
or
(3): [itex](\frac{cos(2θ)-1}{2})y''+cos(θ)y'-4y = 0[/itex]

No idea what to do next!
Any pointers would be great, thank you!
 
the0 said:
I've never come across that before :/

How can I use that to solve it?

rearrange to give:

[itex]y''+\frac{x}{(x+1)(x-1)}y'-\frac{4}{(x+1)(x-1)} = 0[/itex] ?

Then I can't see why the change of variable hint has been given.
This "rearrangement" is wrong.

The correct arrangement is
[tex]y''+\frac{x}{(x+1)(x-1)}y'-\frac{4y}{(x+1)(x-1)} = 0[/tex]

Now, how does that help?

The substitution, [itex]x= cos(\theta)[/itex], if done correctly, simplifies this a great deal.
 
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OK, thanks a lot!

Right, am I correct in substituting the following:

[itex]x = cos(θ)[/itex]

[itex]\frac{dy}{dx} = (\frac{-1}{sin(θ)})\frac{dy}{dθ}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}} = (\frac{-cos(θ)}{sin^{3}(θ)})\frac{d^{2}y}{dθ^{2}}[/itex]

?


If so, I get:

[itex]cos(θ)\frac{d^{2}y}{dθ^{2}}-cos(θ)\frac{dy}{dθ}-4sin(θ)y = 0[/itex]

What next?
Or have I made some stupid error?
 

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