Solving the Basel problem using Gauss's law

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The discussion revolves around the application of Gauss's law to solve the Basel problem, a classic problem in mathematics concerning the sum of the reciprocals of the squares of the natural numbers. Participants explore the potential of using Gauss's law in a novel way, comparing it to a geometric approach involving lighthouses and their brightness as a function of distance.

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  • One participant introduces a method of solving the Basel problem using lighthouses and the inverse-square law, suggesting that the apparent brightness at the origin can be calculated.
  • Another participant explains Gauss's law and its relevance to evaluating electric fields, noting that the light intensity relates to the electric field squared and involves integrating over a closed surface.
  • A participant questions the feasibility of applying Gauss's law to this problem, expressing doubt about achieving the necessary symmetry with the arrangement of lighthouses.
  • Another participant speculates that the original commenter may have attempted to curve the number line to fit within a cylindrical surface, but finds the explanation unclear.
  • Several participants reference a website listing five methods to solve the Basel problem, noting that none of these methods involve Gauss's law or the geometric approach presented in the video.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of Gauss's law to the Basel problem, with some questioning its validity while others explore the idea further. There is no consensus on whether Gauss's law can effectively solve the problem.

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The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the relationship between the proposed methods and the necessary mathematical rigor, particularly regarding symmetry and integration in the context of Gauss's law.

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Hi,
so I came across this video: which shows an interesting way to solve the Basel problem using lighthouses. Imagine a lighthouse that has absolute brightness 1. The apparent brightness then follows an inverse-square law. Now imagine an infinite number line with positive integers only (and 0), with a lighthouse at each integer. The Basel problem then becomes: find the apparent brightness at the 0 point. This is simple enough. Now in the comments, I found this:

You can also use Gauss's law to approach the same solution, rather than a geometric approach. Gauss's law works since a radially symmetric field that's magnitude weakens via the inverse square law has its radius term fall out in a surface integral. This means no matter where the lighthouses are within a sphere of radius R, they can be represented by a single lighthouse of combined magnitude in its center. This also means that same combined lighthouse can be represented by equally spaced, equally lit lighthouses along its boundary. By using this law within a cylinder, and holding the "lighthouse surface density" to be 1/2, you find the surface integral to equal to π^2, and a quarter of the cylinder is π^2/4, the same result as using the geometric method. (The circle is quartered to eliminate lighthouses on the negative side of the number line, and double counting when the number line curves upwards to form the circle)

from Copperbotte.
And I can make neither heads nor tails of it. Anyone has an idea of what this means, or how Gauss's law can solve the Basel problem?

Thanks for answering.
 
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Well Gauss's law is used to evaluate the electric field in circumstances where there is a lot of symmetry. The light intensity would be proportional to the square of the electric field. With Gauss's law you integrate the flux over a closed surface, as in ##\int \vec{E}\cdot\vec{n}\:dA##, where ##\vec{E}## is the electric field, ##\vec{n}## is a unit normal to the surface and ##dA## is the surface area element. The integral would be proportional to the charge enclosed within the surface, which in this case would be the number of lighthouses. The method depends on ##\vec{E}## having symmetry, for example on the surface of a sphere or a cylinder. Looking at this problem, I don't see any way to place the lighthouses inside such a surface such that you get the necessary symmetry and still preserve the relationship of ##\vec{E}## to ##\Sigma1/r^2## where ##r## is the distance from the lighthouse.
 
So, there'd be absolutely no way to solve this?

I think that the commenter actually tried to curve the number line, so that part of it would form the end caps of a cylinder. The comment is kind of cryptic.
 
Gene Naden said:
There are five ways to solve the Basel problem on the website http://math.cmu.edu/~bwsulliv/basel-problem.pdf. At a cursory glance, none of them involve Gauss's law.
Then again, none of them involve the geometric approach of the video either.
 

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