Solving the Gamma Function: Using Recursion & Tables

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The discussion revolves around the Gamma function, specifically its properties and applications involving recursion and integral representations. Participants are exploring various integrals and their relationships to the Gamma function, including specific values and substitutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using tables and recursion to evaluate Gamma function values. There are attempts to relate integrals to the Gamma function and questions about the validity of certain substitutions and calculations.

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There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to evaluate integrals involving the Gamma function. Some participants are questioning the accuracy of their calculations and the logic behind their substitutions, while others are providing clarifications and alternative perspectives on the methods being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding variable substitutions and the implications of those substitutions on the integrals being evaluated. There is also mention of specific values and the need for careful consideration of the relationships between variables in the context of the Gamma function.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{n}e^{-x}dx $$ = $$ Gamma (n+1) = n!
$$ Gamma(P+1) $$ = $$Gamma(P)$$
$$ Gamma(P) = (1/P) $$Gamma(P+1)$$


The Attempt at a Solution


2) I have found it from table.
3) I have used recursion and table to find it.
4) Again With recursion.
5) $$ \Gamma(0.7) $$ = 1/p(p+1) with this formula.
8) If $$ \ Gamma (p+1) $$ is equal to this integral,I think it can be written as $$ \ Gamma (2/3+1) $$ later we can found the value from table.Am I right?
Same logic again for 9,10?
But what next? How can I convert them to Gamma function?
 

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11) I found 1/2 but I'm not sure(?)

Edit : No it's not true.I think true solution is on down.
 
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$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{2}e^{-x^{2}}dx=2\int _{0}^{\infty }u^{2}e^{-u}du=2\cdot \Gamma 3 $$
 
Erbil said:
$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{2}e^{-x^{2}}dx=2\int _{0}^{\infty }u^{2}e^{-u}du=2\cdot \Gamma 3 $$
No. How did you get that?
What did you get for (5)?
I don't follow your logic for (8). Where did 2/3 come from? I suspect what you posted is not what you meant.
 
5. 1/0.7(Gamma1.7) = 1.30 ? Isn't it?
I'm sorry questions mess up.It's solution of question 11.
Here is for (8)

For n= 2/3 Gamma(n+1) = Gamma(1+2/3)=Gamma(1.6) = 0.89
 
Erbil said:
5. 1/0.7(Gamma1.7) = 1.30 ? Isn't it?
Yes.
I'm sorry questions mess up.It's solution of question 11.
But you haven't done the substitution correctly. What will dx become?
Here is for (8)
For n= 2/3 Gamma(n+1) = Gamma(1+2/3)=Gamma(1.6) = 0.89
OK, but 1.6 is a bit inaccurate. The answer should be > 0.9.
 
Yes.There's a problem.But I can't figure. if we say u=x^2 --> 2xdx=du --> dx = du/2x Where to go from here? I can't remember how can I escape from x variable?
 
For the ones of the type

\int_0^\infty t^a b \, e^{-t^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

this can be derived by the change of variable u=t^b
 
Erbil said:
Yes.There's a problem.But I can't figure. if we say u=x^2 --> 2xdx=du --> dx = du/2x Where to go from here? I can't remember how can I escape from x variable?
Just replace the x using u=x2
 
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haruspex said:
Just replace the x using u=x2

I understand but what about dx ? Would be? x^2=u 2xdx = du dx = du/2x (I'm asking about this x?)

$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }ue^{-u}? $$
 
  • #11
dx = du/(2x)
or
dx = du/(2sqrt(u))
 
  • #12
lurflurf said:
dx = du/(2x)
or
dx = du/(2sqrt(u))

Thanks!
 
  • #13
Can I use same logic for 12?

x^3 = u
3x^2dx= du
dx = du / 3*√u

∫xe^-x^3 = ∫u^1/3*e^-u du/3*√u= 1/3 ∫ u^-1/6 e^-udu = 1/3 * Gamma -5/6 ...?+ No idea for 15?
 
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  • #14
Erbil said:
Can I use same logic for 12?

x^3 = u
3x^2dx= du
dx = du / 3*√u
Not √u, a little more complicated than that. What is x as a function of u?
+ No idea for 15?
In line with the other substitutions, u=8x looks obvious. Did you try that?
 
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haruspex said:
Not √u, a little more complicated than that. What is x as a function of u?

In line with the other substitutions, u=8x looks obvious. Did you try that?

Oh what I was did.it will be u^1/3 =?
Not yet.But I will.
 
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^Yes above I said

\int_0^\infty t^a b \, e^{-t^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

this can be derived by the change of variable u=t^b

also

\int_0^\infty (st)^a b \, e^{-(s t)^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

s>0 this can be derived by the change of variable u=s t
 

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