Solving the Hard Indefinite Integral: e^(3x) * sqrt(1+e^(2x))

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The discussion revolves around solving the indefinite integral of the function e^(3x) * sqrt(1 + e^(2x)). Participants are exploring various methods of integration, including substitution and integration by parts, while grappling with the complexity of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants have attempted u-substitution and integration by parts, with some suggesting the use of trigonometric substitutions. There is a focus on evaluating the integral after transforming the expression, and questions arise about the effectiveness of different approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking feedback on their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative methods, but there is no clear consensus on the best path forward. The complexity of the integral continues to be a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention constraints in their learning, such as not having covered certain substitution techniques like hyperbolic functions, which may limit their approach to the problem.

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1. Homework Statement [/b]

\int e^{3x}\sqrt{1+e^{2x}dx

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Substitution
Parts of Integration

The Attempt at a Solution



Started off using U substitution setting ex = to u. Then tried to use parts of integration. Now I am stuck.
 
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This is a very messy problem.
After u-substitution (let u = e^{x}), you should get
\int u^2\sqrt{1+u^2}du

Then I imagine you should try u-substitution using trig functions like tan and sec. It gets very convoluted very quickly.
 
Thats what I have done and it seems to continue to get larger. Just trying to make sure I was on the right track. Thanks for your help
 
Instead of committing fully to one particular approach, you should do some exploratory computations to see what works best. That will often save you from persuing some tedious method if a very simple method is available. In this case you missed a partial integration step where you integrate the factor u sqrt(1+u^2) and thus have to evaluate the integral of (1+u^2)^(3/2), which suggests substituting u = sinh(t) leaving you having to integrate cosh^4(t), which is trivial.
 
Haven't learned U=sinh(t). Only using u-sub, Trig sub, and parts. I think that's what is making it so long and messy. If any other suggestions it would be much appreciated.
 
This requires hyperbolic sin.
 
Haven't tried this out, just the first thing I thought of:
e3x√(1 + e2x) = ex·e2x√(1 + e2x)

You can try integration by parts, integrating the right side with the substitution u = 1 + e2x

Whatever you do, you won't have to go into hyperbolic trig functions, even if the regular trig functions make the integration a little messy.
 

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