Solving this type of recurrence equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific type of recurrence equation involving sequences \( P_i \) and \( g_i \). The problem includes boundary conditions and seeks methods for finding solutions, with a focus on both theoretical and practical approaches.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about general methods for solving recurrence relations involving multiple unknown functions.
  • Another participant suggests that if \( g \) and \( P \) are constant sequences, a solution exists, and recommends stating additional conditions if non-constant solutions are desired.
  • A participant clarifies that in their specific problem, \( g_i \) is arbitrary and not a constant sequence.
  • Another participant interprets the problem as requiring the solution of \( L \) simultaneous linear equations with constant coefficients and questions whether a closed-form symbolic answer is sought.
  • A different participant proposes using the discrete Fourier transform due to the periodic nature of both \( P_i \) and \( g_i \), suggesting that this approach could facilitate the solution through the convolution theorem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific method for solving the recurrence equation. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on the periodicity of the sequences and the implications of having arbitrary versus constant sequences, which may affect the methods applicable to the problem.

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Hi,

The problem is to solve
(1-g_{i+1})P_{i+1}-P_{i}+g_{i-1}P_{i-1}=0
for P_{i}
with boundary condition
P_{i}=P_{i+L}, g_{i}=g_{i+L}
Can anyone provide any guide of solving this type of recurence equation?
Thank you!
 
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I don't know of any general methods for solving recurrence relations in several unknown functions.

Since setting g and P to be constant sequences gives a solution to the problem, I suggest that you state additional conditions that g and P must satistfy if having them constant isn't what you are after.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
I don't know of any general methods for solving recurrence relations in several unknown functions.

Since setting g and P to be constant sequences gives a solution to the problem, I suggest that you state additional conditions that g and P must satistfy if having them constant isn't what you are after.

Thanks for your reply.

In my problem, g_i is given and arbitrary, so in general g_i is not a constant sequence.
 
Then, as I interpret the problem, it amounts to solving L simultaneous linear equations with constant coefficients and unknowns P_1,P_2,..P_L.

Are you looking for a closed form symbolic answer instead of a numerical one?

( The wikipedia article on "recurrence relation" says that linear constant coefficient difference equations can be solved with z-transforms. I, myself, have never done that. )
 
Because both \lbrace P_{i}\rbrace and \lbrace g_{i}\rbrace are period with a common period of L, you should use the discrete Fourier transform:

<br /> P_{i} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \, \sum_{k = 0}^{L - 1}{\tilde{P}_{k} \, \exp{\left(\frac{2 \pi j k \, i}{L}\right)}}<br />
and similarly for g_{i}. Then you will use the convolution theorem for the products.
 

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