Solving Unit Vectors Problem: Calculate Forces at B

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The problem involves calculating the magnitudes of forces exerted at point B by cables AB and BC, given the total force acting on the mast B. The context includes vector representation and the relationship between geometry and forces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces by drawing a diagram and calculating vector components but expresses confusion regarding the total force calculations. Some participants suggest using geometric properties of triangles to relate the forces and vectors.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly the relationship between the geometric triangle and the force triangle. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the representation of forces and their relationship to the vectors involved.

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There is a noted confusion between geometric and force representations, and participants are questioning the assumptions made in the calculations of forces. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about the approach and the calculations involved.

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OK here's the problem. I am completely unsure how to solve it my teacher never even did an example like this before.

The total force exerted on the top of the mast B by the sailboat's forestay AB and backstay BC is 180i- 820j (N). What are the magnitudes of the forces exerted at B by the cables AB and BC?

A(0,1.2)
B(4,13)
C(9,1)

Any help please and thank you

here's what i got so far. I drew i diagram of the situation drawing and drew the vectors. I figured out Fab=(4i,11.8j) and Fbc=(5i,-12j)

Then i found the total force in the i direction which is 9i and the total force in the j which is 0.2j .

I know that the total force in the i direction is suppose to be 180i but i got 9i for the total force. Any help?
 
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You are confusing geometry with forces. There is a force triangle which is similar to a geometric triangle, and that property will enable you to solve the problem.
Where you have written Fab=... you should have written AB=(4i+11.8j). It's not a force, but the force in AB is a multiple of that vector. Can you work it from there?
 
pongo38 said:
You are confusing geometry with forces. There is a force triangle which is similar to a geometric triangle, and that property will enable you to solve the problem.
Where you have written Fab=... you should have written AB=(4i+11.8j). It's not a force, but the force in AB is a multiple of that vector. Can you work it from there?

so would the force of AB be equal too square root 4^2 + 11.8^2? can you get me started a little bit more, other than that i could probely get it thank you
 
No it's not sq root etc. You need to draw a two triangles in which the edges are parallel to AB, BC, and F= 180i- 820j. The first triangle expresses the geometry of the situation, and the second triangle is about forces. The two triangles are geometrically similar, and you should be able to solve the problem using that fact.
 

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