Solving Wheatstone Bridge w/ R1=2000, R2=3000, R3=4000 & 12V Battery

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on solving a Wheatstone bridge circuit with given resistances and a 12V battery. Participants emphasize using Kirchhoff's laws to set up equations for loop currents and node voltages. The equivalent resistance is calculated as 2461.44 ohms, and the current through the circuit is determined to be 0.004875 amperes. Suggestions are made to simplify the problem by minimizing the number of current variables introduced in the equations. The conversation concludes with the recommendation to systematically approach the problem using three loop equations and two node equations.
control
Messages
14
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Set voltage between 1. a-b; 2- b-c; 3 c-d 4. a-c; if voltage of battery is 12V and R_1=2000 ohms R_2=3000 ohms; R_3= 4000 ohms. (see attached file)

Homework Equations


voltage=final voltage- innitial voltage
resistors in series R_1,2=R_1+R_2
parallel resistors: R_1,2=(R_1*R_2)/(R_1+R_2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea how to solve such problem. I can use Kirchhoff laws in circuits, I can use all equations I wrote in "relevant equations", I watched video how to set equivalent resistance of those resistors through "delta to ypsilon transformation" () but I have absolutely no idea how to apply my knowledge in such problem.
 

Attachments

  • WP_20170525_23_32_27_Pro (2).jpg
    WP_20170525_23_32_27_Pro (2).jpg
    43.7 KB · Views: 658
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
control said:
I can use Kirchhoff laws in circuits, I can use all equations I wrote in "relevant equations"
Good. So that means you can write the KVL loop equations for the circuit (or the KCL node equations). What do you get?
 
Well, resistance of equivalent resistor would be R_eq=2461.44 ohms.
KVL loop looks: +voltage of battery-(current*equivalent resistor)=0 => 12volts-current*2461.44ohms=0 => current=0.004875ampers
So what should I do next?
 
control said:
Well, resistance of equivalent resistor would be R_eq=2461.44 ohms.
KVL loop looks: +voltage of battery-(current*equivalent resistor)=0 => 12volts-current*2461.44ohms=0 => current=0.004875ampers
So what should I do next?
You have not solved the circuit. You need to either solve for loop currents (using KVL loop equations) or for node voltages (KCL node equations). My own preference would be to write node equations for the two essential nodes (b and c) since the problem is asking for potential difference between nodes.
 
You mean:
-I_3*R_1-I_2*R_3+I_1*R_2=0
-I_2*R_3-I_4*R_1+I_5*R_2=0
I_1+I_2=I_4
I_3=I_2+I_5
?
upload_2017-5-26_1-38-10.png
 
That's a start. You need one more loop, one involving the voltage source.
 
There should be two loops involving source:
ε-R_1*I_3-R_2*I_5=0
ε-R_2*I_1-R_1*I_4=0
 
control said:
There should be two loops involving source:
ε-R_1*I_3-R_2*I_5=0
ε-R_2*I_1-R_1*I_4=0
Okay, but you'll only need one of them; you need just enough loops so that every component is included in at least one of the loops. After that any additional loops will not introduce any new (independent) information to the system of equations.
 
Ok, so now I choose 5 equations with 5 unknown currents, find them and using Ohm´s law I will find voltage on resistors?
 
  • #10
control said:
Ok, so now I choose 5 equations with 5 unknown currents, find them and using Ohm´s law I will find voltage on resistors?
Yes. Three loop equations and two node equations (KCL at two of the nodes).

If I may make a suggestion, you can reduce the number of current unknowns if you are careful about how you introduce new currents when you label your circuit. Proceed systematically and only introduce the minimum number of new currents required at junctions. For example, if one current (say ##i_1##) enters a junction and two leave, then only introduce one new current (say ##i_2##) leaving the junction by one of the paths so that ##i_1 - i_2## leaves by the other. If you do it this way you're effectively doing the KCL sums ahead of time and you'll end up with the minimum number of current variables required and you'll only require loop currents to solve.

upload_2017-5-26_6-49-59.png
 
  • #11
OK, thanks a lot.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
30
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Back
Top