Some help with a X-Ray astronomy question please

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The discussion revolves around a problem in X-ray astronomy involving the calculation of the number of photons detected by an X-ray telescope based on a comparison with an optical telescope's observations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to astrophysical measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a multi-step approach to solving the problem, including comparing the effective areas and exposure times of the optical and X-ray telescopes.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the number of photons per square meter per second for the optical telescope as a first step.
  • A clarification is made that the X-ray photon count can be derived by taking 1/10th of the optical photon count per square meter per second.
  • Participants express appreciation for the forum and the collaborative nature of the discussion.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to solving the problem, particularly regarding the calculation of photon counts, but the initial participant expresses uncertainty about how to perform the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the efficiency of the telescopes and the dependence on the definitions of photon counts and exposure times. The discussion does not resolve the specific calculations needed for step 1.

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I've got to solve this problem and I am having quite an hard time figuring out how... Sorry, but I think I need help:

"An astronomer takes a spectrum of a distant quasar using a 4m telescope. With an exposure
time of one hour, the optical spectrum contains about 10,000 photons. The source emits 1/10
as much power in the X-ray band as it emits in the optical band. The astronomer manages to
get a 30 kilosecond observation with an X-ray observatory that has an e ffective area of 1000
cm2.
Assuming that the effciency of the telescope and spectrograph combination is 30%, how
many photons will the resulting X-ray spectrum contain?"

As far as I understand, What I should do here is
1) to compare the two telescopes as if they had the same area and the same exposure time, so that I can infer how many optical photons the optical telescope would have gathered if it had the area and the exposure time of the X-Ray one.
2) Then, I would take 1/10th of this result (the source is emitting 1/10 of Xray photons as compared to the optical ones) which will tell me the theoretical number of X-Ray photons the X-Ray telescope would have gathered with perfect efficiency.
3) But knowing that the efficiency was only the 30%, I could have an estimate of the number of photons actually detected in the X-Ray spectrum.

Problem is, I have no idea how to calculate step 1)


Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.
 
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Step 1 is just to calculate the number of photons/m^2/second on each telescope
(Be careful with the units)
 
You mean that if I calculate the photons per m^2 per second for the optical one whatever result I'll get the 1/10th of that number will be the photons per m^2 per second of the X-Ray one?
 
Yes.
 
Guys, thanks a lot. Really appreciate. I'm happy to have discovered this forum, and I'll hopefully be able to actually help someone one day :)
 

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