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The discussion revolves around a concept from Griffiths' "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics," where an undergraduate questions the relationship between the velocity of an insect's shadow and the insect's actual speed. The participant argues that the shadow's velocity should match the insect's speed, especially when considering parallel light rays. A further inquiry is raised about whether information can be transmitted faster than light by manipulating shadows and using a distant film to capture this phenomenon. Responses clarify that while shadows may appear to move quickly, the actual transmission of information remains bound by the speed of light due to the nature of light and signal propagation. The conversation concludes with a mutual understanding of the complexities involved in these quantum mechanics concepts.
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Hi, I am Liu, a undergraduate in mainland China, I post out this idea and want to
see how you gentleman think, here it is:

Griffiths says, in his book < Introduction to Quantum Mechanics >, if an insect fly
in a path perpendicular to the direction in which lightbeam goes, the velocity of
its shadow is proportional to the distance between light source and shadow.

I think the problem is, the velocity of insect's shadow is same as insect's v.

From perspective of wave theory, you can draw a picture below:

--Goal plane---
|||\ \|||||||||
||||\ \||||||||
|||||\ \|||||||
||2|||\1\|||2||
|||||||\ \|||||
||||||||\ \||||
||||||||||●->||
            V
Two parts of the space is divided, 1 is for in which light doesn't exist, opposite the 2,
and ● is the insect.
Now think of the move of "slash tunnel", it is like "be pushed by light", hence the end of
the tunnel, or the shadow, is moving at the insect's speed on the goal plane.
Am I right?

Sorry for grammar error, if any.
 
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It would be true for Griffith if he is talking about a central light source that radiates spherically - the rays are not parallel.

In your case you have parallel light rays, so in your case your version is true.
 
Thank you for replying, I get it.

So further question, once you have a shadow traveling with v larger than
speed of light, we now set a negative film far far away, rolling like a tape,
and shot bullets in front of the source in certain frequencies, meanwhile we
are very lucky that there's a supercomputer interpreting those shadow
frequencies into human language, didn't we just give information over the
speed of light ?
 
What you think the answer is to this question may help: A radio station is transmitting information in all directions. If houses A, B, and C are all 50 km from the station and are the vertices of an equilateral triangle with the station at its center, can one say that information received at A was transmitted faster than the speed of light to B and C?
 
Right, that is much clearer. Thanks.
 
liumylife said:
Thank you for replying, I get it.

So further question, once you have a shadow traveling with v larger than
speed of light, we now set a negative film far far away, rolling like a tape,
and shot bullets in front of the source in certain frequencies, meanwhile we
are very lucky that there's a supercomputer interpreting those shadow
frequencies into human language, didn't we just give information over the
speed of light ?

The shadow will not be a straight like but, at great distances, a spiral shape, spreading outward at the speed of light. A distant receiver will see flashes (as from a lighthouse) and there timing will be delayed due to the transit time for the light.
 
liumylife said:
Right, that is much clearer. Thanks.

Clearer in that I've restated your problem, or in that you saw my point? :-)
 
James_Harford said:
Clearer in that I've restated your problem, or in that you saw my point? :-)
I saw your point. Thank you, everyone.
 
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