Speed of charged particle moving in E and B fields

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The discussion focuses on the motion of a charged particle in electric and magnetic fields, specifically analyzing its speed as a function of the z-coordinate. Initially, only the electric force acts on the particle, causing acceleration along the z-axis, while the magnetic force later influences its motion in the xz-plane. The equations of motion for both x and z components are derived, highlighting the variable nature of acceleration. A method using the chain rule is suggested to relate the velocity components to the z-coordinate, leading to a proportional relationship between the x-component of velocity and z. The integration of these relationships allows for a comprehensive understanding of the particle's speed in the given fields.
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Homework Statement


A particle having mass m and charge q is released at the origin in a region in which magnetic field and electric field are given by
B= -B' j and E= E' k
where j and k are unit vectors along y-axis and z axis respectively.
Find the speed of the particle as a function of z co ordinate.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The particle is released at the origin so at t=0 only electric force will act on the particle along z axis. As the particle gains some velocity, magnetic force will start acting and will push the particle in xz plane. Here the velocity has two components, x and z, so magnetic force will act on both these components. I calculted the net force in both x and z directions as:
Fx= qBvz
Fz= q(E-Bvx)
As can be seen from the equations, the acc. in the both the directions is variable , so how come in the solution(picture), he has used the equation v2 - u2= 2as?
 

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AnwaarKhalid said:
The particle is released at the origin so at t=0 only electric force will act on the particle along z axis. As the particle gains some velocity, magnetic force will start acting and will push the particle in xz plane. Here the velocity has two components, x and z, so magnetic force will act on both these components. I calculted the net force in both x and z directions as:
The particle gains velocity in direction of the electric field and the magnetic field acts as cross product of velocity vector and the magnetic field which will be normal to the plane containing velocity acquired and the B field. therefore the change in velocity can be calculated using acceleration in E field direction. but naturally that's not the path taken by the particle.the path will be affected by B-field.
 
drvrm said:
The particle gains velocity in direction of the electric field and the magnetic field acts as cross product of velocity vector and the magnetic field which will be normal to the plane containing velocity acquired and the B field. therefore the change in velocity can be calculated using acceleration in E field direction. but naturally that's not the path taken by the particle.the path will be affected by B-field.
You meant change of speed, which is not influenced by B.
 
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AnwaarKhalid said:

The Attempt at a Solution


The particle is released at the origin so at t=0 only electric force will act on the particle along z axis. As the particle gains some velocity, magnetic force will start acting and will push the particle in xz plane. Here the velocity has two components, x and z, so magnetic force will act on both these components. I calculted the net force in both x and z directions as:
Fx= qBvz
Fz= q(E-Bvx)
As can be seen from the equations, the acc. in the both the directions is variable , so how come in the solution(picture), he has used the equation v2 - u2= 2as?
The solution is correct, but you can solve it with a less intuitive way.
The two equations give the components of accelerations.
##a_x=\frac{dv_x}{dt}=\frac{qB}{m}v_z##
##a_z=\frac{dv_z}{dt}=\frac{q}{m}(E-Bv_x)##
As the z-dependence of speed is the question, you can change to z as independent variable. Applying chain rule,
##\frac{dv_x}{dt}=\frac{dv_x}{dz}v_z=\frac{qB}{m}v_z## and ##a_z=\frac{dv_z}{dz}v_z=\frac{q}{m}(E-Bv_x)##
vz cancels from the first equation, so vx is proportional to z. Knowing vx as function of z, the second equation is easy to integrate.
 
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