Speed of Hydrogen combustion out of a tube?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the escape velocity of hydrogen gas from a tube when one end is closed and the other is open, assuming the cylinder is filled with hydrogen at 1 atm. The maximum flame speed of hydrogen is established at 3.06 m/s, which is used to estimate the time required to fill a sphere with the combusted gas volume. The proposed method involves calculating the combustion rate in volume per second and using it to determine the escape velocity and thrust produced by the gas exiting the tube.

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Hello, I was curious about how to calculate how fast the escape velocity of hydrogen out of a tube/cylinder would be. Once end of the cylinder is closed, the other is open, obviously.

Assume the cylinder is full of hydrogen at 1 atm. My thought is that you could use PV=NRT to calculate the volume of the hydrogen once combusted and then imagine a sphere that had that equivalent volume. Online i found that the max flame speed of hydrogen is 3.06 m/s. I think you could start from the center of the sphere and calculate how long it would take to fill that volume if you went out radially at that speed(radius/3.06 m/s). Take the volume and divide it by the time to get the rate.

Once you have that rate, you could take the rate of the combustion (Vol/sec) and divide that by the volume of the cylinder to get the multiple. For example: if the rate of combustion is 1000L/sec and the cylinder is 1 L, then the gas will expand to 1000x the volume of the cylinder in 1 second. By multiplying the length * the multiple(1000) and dividing by 1 second, that would give a decent approximation for the escape velocity of the gas coming out of the tube. Them multiplying that by the mass/sec (flow rate) gives you the thrust.

Does this seem reasonable? Or is there an equation i can use for this.
 
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This is not for school, just my own curiosity.
 
I am afraid you are mixing completely irrelevant and independent phenomena and the calculation you did doesn't make any sense.
 

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