Standing waves on a moving string

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of standing waves on a string that is moving at a constant speed. Participants explore the implications of this motion on wave properties, string tension, and the generation of waves by oscillators.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether standing waves can still exist on a moving string and how to calculate string tension under these conditions.
  • Another participant suggests that the discussion may belong in a homework section and prompts consideration of how equations might change with a moving string.
  • There are inquiries about how an oscillator produces waves on a moving string, with one participant expressing concern that the motion might disrupt wave formation.
  • A participant proposes that waves moving in one direction might be "sped up" while those moving in the opposite direction could be "slowed down," raising questions about observable frequencies.
  • Another participant asserts that the speed of the wave relative to the medium (the string) remains unchanged by the string's motion.
  • One participant clarifies that their perspective is from an outside observer's point of view, which leads to further discussion about its relevance.
  • A later reply states that the outside observer's perspective is irrelevant for determining the frequency of standing waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of a moving string on wave behavior, with no consensus reached regarding the implications for standing waves and frequency observations.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between wave speed, string motion, and frequency remain unresolved, and the discussion does not clarify how these factors interact in detail.

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Hello,
I have the configuration as shown in attached picture. I know how to calculate string tension and measure frequency if the string is not moving. But what happens if the string is moving at a constant speed? Are there still standing waves? Can we still calculate the string tension? What if the speed of a string is slow in comparison to frequency of standing waves?

Thanks!
 

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First, this may belong in a HW section and need to follow the HW guidance requirements.

Second, consider why and how would the equations change if a string is moving?
 
dr. courtney , tell me how an oscillator would produce a wave on the string ??
 
Shreyas Samudra said:
dr. courtney , tell me how an oscillator would produce a wave on the string ??

Strings tend to start vibrating if anyone of their resonance frequencies are excited. If an oscillator excites a resonant frequency, a string will vibrate, producing a wave.
 
actually i meant to say how an oscillator would produce a wave on the string , when the string is moving with some speed ??
don't you think that - the attempt of oscillator for producing a wave may lead to some unordered stuff happening on the string , as it is moving ?? !
 
Sorry if it is in the wrong section.
I was thinking that waves moving in one direction are "sped up" because of the moving string and waves traveling in the opposite direction are "slowed down". Would we actually see 2 different frequencies or am I completely wrong?
 
The speed of the wave in respect to the medium (string) is not changed by the motion of the string.
 
I understand that. I was talking from the point of view of an outside observer.
 
That point of view is irrelevant for the frequency of the standing waves.
 

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