Standing Waves Problem with Unknown Mass

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of "loops" in standing waves, which may refer to harmonics, suggesting that reducing mass increases wavelength due to decreased tension in the string. The participant expresses confusion about the relationship between the length of each loop and the wavelength, indicating that the extension of the string decreases as it becomes less taut. In Part D, they derive the amplitude using the cosine function but arrive at a different answer than the solution provided, leading to frustration. A suggestion is made to reference a formula that relates tension, density, and wave velocity for clarity. The conversation highlights the complexities of analyzing standing waves and the importance of precise definitions in physics problems.
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Homework Statement
See Image. Parts C and D
Relevant Equations
Part C.
v = λf
Harmonic numbers for springs

Part D.
x = Acos(ωt). ??? Not really sure what formula to use.
Part C.

First of all, I am not entirely sure what the problem means by "loops." (I see the loops, duh ;)) but I am not sure what quantity they represent. I am guessing it means harmonics, in which case M would have to be lessened to make a greater wavelength. This is because the extension of the string would be lessened as it is less taut. In the relation L = 1/2λ+nλ/2 (4th harmonic for strings), we see that the dividend is

Is this the correct way of thinking about this part?

Part D.

x = Acos(ωt) = Acos(2πf)
4 = Acos((2π)((2π/3)) converted 120 degrees to radians
4 = A(1)
A = 4
The solution says it is 1. I can't think of any alternative to solve this.

Thanks in advance.
 

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NP04 said:
not sure what quantity they represent.
What is the relationship between the length of each loop and the wavelength?
NP04 said:
the extension of the string would be lessened as it is less taut
That is not a useful way to look at it. You should be able to quote a formula relating tension, density and wave velocity.
 
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