XZ923 said:
I respectfully disagree. You're basing everything on Kylo Ren not knowing who Rey is. The Star Wars saga is replete with Force-users not knowing each other. Darth Sidious ran the Republic for years, regularly interacting with the Jedi Council, and no one knew who he was. And in case the response to that is "he was shrouded by the dark side", Darth Vader had Leia in his personal custody for most of Ep.4 and never managed to figure out she was strong in the Force, let alone his own daughter. Given that Vader was so wildly off on Leia's identity, it stands to reason a dark-side user who is less than Vader (which Ren himself openly admits; he's constantly worrying that he'll never be as strong as Vader) could get Rey's identity wrong.
To me the key is in the flashback scene where a cloaked figure with an artificial hand puts something into R2. The artificial hand is the same one we see on Luke at the very end when he pulls the hood from his face. The obvious conclusion is that the cloaked figure is Luke and he's putting the map in R2. Throughout the movie, R2 remains silent (in low-power mode but not off) no matter who approaches him, until Rey shows up. Then he "wakes up" and reveals Luke's location. To me the implication is that Luke wanted Rey-Rey specifically-to find him, and he probably trusted the Force with the timing. That means there is some sort of previous, very strong connection between the two. I freely admit the idea that Luke left her on Jakku was a bit of a leap, but he was left on a very similar world and he turned out alright. Note that in the scene where Rey is left on Jakku there are other people around, so Luke didn't just drop her in the desert. What happened to those people is unknown. This would also explain why she has no last name; are getting ready for a "there...is...another...sky...walk...er" reveal?
I am interested to hear your theory on how Rey is able to use advanced techniques with no training. No one, not even the Chosen One himself, had that sort of ability. She may have incredible power, but the techniques are learned. To me there's only two possible ways this happens. 1: horrifically bad writing; 2: she already knows them, she just doesn't know she knows them. Like riding a bike, to use the old adage.
But hey, I thought Daenerys was going to marry Jaime Lannister, so I have a bad track record of these things.
Well, I pointed to Kylo saying she is untrained to show Rey wasn't at Luke's school. So if she did have Force training it was not at the academy. For that matter, JJ Abraham, himself, said, they never even met until Takodana Woods, when Kylo captured Rey. And he also said Rey never met Leia until TFA.
Rey was only left with Unkar Platt. He was the one, in the flashback, saying "hush now child." Unkar was not really watching it for Rey and is a heartless and cold man who did not really care about the girl. I don't think Luke would leave any child behind in his "care." Rey was pretty much on her own on Jakku having to scrap and claw for every bit of food and shelter she could get because Platt didn't do anything for her unless he got something for it.
I admit the flashback is a big clue. But there are so many avenues it could take I cannot even begin to boil down what clues it's pointing towards. I have heard some theories so I will add them on when I can gather them.
I touched upon, in another thread, why Rey is so affluent with the force; there's a popular theory going around that would totally explain why Rey was so good with using her powers so fast...she formed a Force Bond with Kylo Ren during the interrogation scene. For those of you who don't know what that is it is the Star Wars equivalent to The Vulcan Mind Meld. When two force users form one they have instant access to each other's thoughts, memories, and skills. It totally explains why Rey was able to do he high level force powers in less than a day because Kylo already knew that stuff and she was tapping into his mind.
The only time Rey ever used her powers was while Kylo was using it on her or afterwards:
She read his mind while he was in the middle of probing hers. Then halfway through she's able to do it just a well as he does.
When she tried to use the Jedi Mind Trick she struggled her first couple times until Kylo starting marching back to the room to get her. The closer and closer he got the more confident and better she got at it (the closer the two are together the more powerful thebond).
After Kylo force blasted her she was able to use telekinesis like a pro. It was alreadyestablished at the beginning Ben wasexceptional with this power when he frozePoe and his blast simultaneously with noeffort whatsoever.
And during their climatic duel Rey was over matched by Ben until he came out of nowhere and offered to be his teacher. Then she closed her eyes and tapped into the force. Afterwards she became a saber virtuoso whose style mimicked Ben's to a tee. She even started walking like him and became far more aggressive like he was.
Force Bonds have occurred with other characters too: County Dooku and Yoda. And Darth Revan and Bastila Shan.
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