Started an experiment , triboluminescence

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The discussion revolves around an experiment on triboluminescence, specifically focusing on the creation of sugar crystals to observe the phenomenon. Participants share their experiences, methods, and challenges related to the experiment, including the use of adhesive tape and the conditions necessary for successful crystallization.

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  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their attempt to create sugar crystals for observing triboluminescence, noting the procedure and expressing excitement about the outcome.
  • Another participant shares their experience with adhesive tape, mentioning variability in the triboluminescence effect among different tapes, even within the same brand.
  • A participant reflects on their initial attempt to create sugar crystals, indicating that insufficient sugar may have hindered the process and plans to restart with a smaller jar if no improvement is observed.
  • After reboiling the solution and adding more sugar, a participant reports achieving saturation and expresses confidence that the experiment will succeed this time.
  • One participant successfully observes triboluminescence after crushing the sugar crystals, describing the crystallization process and the challenges faced with surface crystallization.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share their individual experiences and methods without reaching a consensus on the best approach to observe triboluminescence, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved challenges in the experimentation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as the amount of sugar used, the size of the jar, and the conditions for crystallization, which may affect the outcome of the experiment. There is also a discussion about the variability of triboluminescence in different adhesive tapes.

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Started an "experiment", triboluminescence

Since I can't get Wint-O-Green life savers in the country I live in and could not see triboluminescence in adhesive tapes I have at home, I decided to make my own crystals of sugar and when they'll be done I'm going to break them in the dark.
The proceedure to get crystals of sugar is easy (can be found there http://chemistry.about.com/od/growingcrystals/ht/blsugarcrystal.htm). I've done the solution and poored it already into a jar. I just need to wait some days now.
I hope everything goes fine, I can't wait to see the final result (the light!).
 
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Awesome! :biggrin:
 


I observed triboluminescence by using adhesive tape. However, I found that not every tape showed the effect. Even tapes of the same brand showed different behavior (they only differed in size). I also recommend staying in a very dark room for a couple of minutes such that your eyes adapt to the darkness.

Good luck with the sugar experiment!
 


Edgardo said:
I observed triboluminescence by using adhesive tape. However, I found that not every tape showed the effect. Even tapes of the same brand showed different behavior (they only differed in size). I also recommend staying in a very dark room for a couple of minutes such that your eyes adapt to the darkness.

Good luck with the sugar experiment!

Ok good to know. Thanks.
Well so far it's been almost 24 hours I started it and I see no sign of sugar crystal. Now that I think about it, the approximately 1 kg of sugar I used was maybe not enough for my medium sized jar. It was so much sugar that I took too much time pouring it up into the hot water which eventually boiled and made it much harder for me to see whether the sugar I was adding was getting disolved. Anyway if I did not reach the saturation of sugar in water I was close for sure.
I'll wait a few days and might restart it with a smaller jar if I see no improvement.
 


Nothing happened yet. I decided to reboil my sample and add more sugar. This time I know for sure I reached the saturation; the water stopped to be transparent. I added about 500 grams of sugar to reach this saturation so I was indeed quite far from it previously.
This time I'm more confident the experiment will work. Yay.
 


Don't forget to post pics! :)
 


I just tested it (less than 1 minute ago). IT WORKS!
Sorry I took some pictures in the beginning of crystallization but they are of very poor quality, I don't feel like uploading them here. I didn't took any other picture after.
For some reason, after pooring the solution water+dissolved sugar into the jar, the sugar would mainly crystalize at the surface which would then stop the evaporation which is needed to get crystallization below the surface. So I had to remove several times the solid sugar surface because it would reform a few hours later. Anyway I didn't get more crystallization below the surface after the first hours. If I had knew this beforehand I'd have waited 1 or 2 days only and then poor the solution outside the jar and then wait for evaporation of the whole remaining liquid.
I waited 5 minutes in a very dark room, took a spoon and crushed the sugar crystals. I saw light instantly and played for like 5 minutes crushing the crystals.
Well that was worth it.
 

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