Statements regarding Brownian motion experiment

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The discussion revolves around an experiment demonstrating Brownian motion in a gas, where smoke particles are illuminated and observed under a microscope. Participants are evaluating statements related to the behavior of smoke particles and gas molecules during the experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the validity of various statements regarding the scattering of light by gas molecules, the relationship between smoke particle size and motion speed, and the implications of smoke pressure on particle behavior. Questions arise about the definitions of gas molecules and their role in the experiment.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the statements presented, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of options A and C. Clarifications regarding the nature of gas molecules and their interaction with smoke particles are being discussed, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the term "smoke pressure" may be misleading in the context of the experiment, and there is a recognition that the gas in question may not necessarily be air.

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Homework Statement



In an experiment to demonstrate Brownian motion in a gas, a brightly illuminated cell containing smoke is viewed under a microscope. The observer sees a large number of bright specks undergoing random motion.

Which one of the following statements about this experiment is correct?

A) Light is being scattered by gas molecules.
B) The larger the smoke particle, the greater is the speed of the bright specks.
C) The lower the smoke pressure of the gas, the more frequent are the direction changes of the bright specks
D) The higher the temperature of the gas, the faster is the motion of the bright specks.

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I chose D, the answer is D.

D is obviously correct.
I know B is incorrect.

But I am not very sure about A and C.

"A) Light is scattered by gas molecules" Isn't that so? Light is reflected in many directions by many gas molecules so it is scattered.

"C) The lower the smoke pressure, the more frequent are the direction changes of the bright specks" If smoke pressure is lower, it means there are fewer smoke particles. But how does that affect the rate of direction changes?
 
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Why has the experimenter introduced smoke into the jar? What else is in the jar apart from smoke? (Smoke is not dirty gas molecules.)
 
The experimenter wanted to observe the motion of the smoke particles?
Apart from smoke there's air molecules in the jar.

Regarding my concern about choice A), I think the gas molecules means air molecules?
 
coconut62 said:
The experimenter wanted to observe the motion of the smoke particles?
Apart from smoke there's air molecules in the jar.

Regarding my concern about choice A), I think the gas molecules means air molecules?

Yes, it might be air or some other gas, but not the smoke. The smoke particles perform random "Brownian" motion as the gas molecules hit them in random directions. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion and the experiment dust particles in air here

The light might be scattered by the air molecules, too, but scattering is most effective when the wavelength of light is comparable to the size of the particle. That is true for the dust particles, so we see them bright as the light scattered from them reaches our eyes.
As for C) The number of the smoke particles in a given volume is much lower than the number of the gas molecules. The direction of motion of a bright speck (dust particle) changes if it is hit by a gas molecule. Of course, two dust particles can also collide but it is much less frequent than collision with air molecules.

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coconut62 said:
The experimenter wanted to observe the motion of the smoke particles?
Apart from smoke there's air molecules in the jar.

Regarding my concern about choice A), I think the gas molecules means air molecules?
It is not necessary that the gas be air here.

Although we know how light can be scattered by gas molecules, this experiment is not a demonstration of light being scattered by gas molecules. So that is why (A) is not the most/best correct answer.
 
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ehild said:
As for C) The number of the smoke particles in a given volume is much lower than the number of the gas molecules. The direction of motion of a bright speck (dust particle) changes if it is hit by a gas molecule. Of course, two dust particles can also collide but it is much less frequent than collision with air molecules.

Do you mean that when there are less smoke particles, the probability of one particle being bombarded by gas molecules increase so its change of speed increases?
 
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Do you mean that when there are less smoke particles, the probability of one particle being bombarded by gas molecules increase so its change of speed increases?
No, ehild means that the gas molecules so vastly outnumber the smoke molecules that collisions between smoke molecules are irrelevant.
I would add that for the same reason, what the gas molecules do, in aggregate, is barely affected by the smoke molecules.
Therefore what you observe for one smoke molecule is unrelated to the number of smoke molecules.
 
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Do you mean that when there are less smoke particles, the probability of one particle being bombarded by gas molecules increase so its change of speed increases?

No, I did not mean so. Haruspex explained exactly what I meant :biggrin:
By the way, it is strange to speak about "smoke pressure" in the experiment.

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