Statics Homework: Finding Tension and Force in a Walkway Supported by Rollers

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The discussion revolves around a statics homework problem involving a walkway supported by rollers, where participants are tasked with finding the tension in a cable and the force under one of the rollers. The focus is on applying equilibrium equations and analyzing free body diagrams to solve for unknown forces.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem and their approach, including the use of equilibrium equations and a free body diagram to find the normal forces and tension.
  • Another participant suggests checking the trigonometric calculations related to the components of the normal force at point B.
  • A later reply identifies a potential error in the trigonometric components used for the normal force at B, indicating that the horizontal component should be Nbcos60° and the vertical component should be Nbsin60°.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of trigonometric functions in their calculations, leading to incorrect results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the trigonometric components of the forces, indicating that there are competing views on how to resolve the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the angles used for the trigonometric functions, which may affect the final results.

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Homework Statement


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Given: A 300 kg walkway supported by two rollers(at points A and B) with center of mass at G.
Find: The tension T in the horizontal cable attached to the cleat at point B and the force under the roller at A.

Homework Equations


∑M = 0
ΣFx = 0
ΣFy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Free body diagram of the bridge has Normal force vertically upwards with point of application A(Na) , Weight(W) vertically downwards at G, Normal force perpendicular to walkway directed away from water(Nb), and Tension(T) horizontal to the right at point B.

∑Mb = 0 (moment at point B)
0 = +W(4cos30°) - Na(8cos30°)
Na = (W(4cos30°))/(8cos30°)
Na = 1472 N

So far this answer is known to be correct for Na.

ΣFx = 0
0 = T - Nbcos30°
T = Nbcos30°
ΣFy = 0
0 = Na - W + Nbsin30°
Nbsin30° = W - Na
Nb = (W - Na) / sin30°

Plugging in the known values and Na that we solved for yields the incorrect answer. Why can't I add up the components of the force vectors or what am I doing incorrectly?

 
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tyrostoken said:

Homework Statement


phpEpTsQK.png

Given: A 300 kg walkway supported by two rollers(at points A and B) with center of mass at G.
Find: The tension T in the horizontal cable attached to the cleat at point B and the force under the roller at A.

Homework Equations


∑M = 0
ΣFx = 0
ΣFy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Free body diagram of the bridge has Normal force vertically upwards with point of application A(Na) , Weight(W) vertically downwards at G, Normal force perpendicular to walkway directed away from water(Nb), and Tension(T) horizontal to the right at point B.

∑Mb = 0 (moment at point B)
0 = +W(4cos30°) - Na(8cos30°)
Na = (W(4cos30°))/(8cos30°)
Na = 1472 N

So far this answer is known to be correct for Na.

ΣFx = 0
0 = T - Nbcos30°
T = Nbcos30°
ΣFy = 0
0 = Na - W + Nbsin30°
Nbsin30° = W - Na
Nb = (W - Na) / sin30°

Plugging in the known values and Na that we solved for yields the incorrect answer. Why can't I add up the components of the force vectors or what am I doing incorrectly?
Check your trig again when determining the x and y components of the normal force at B.
 
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tyrostoken said:
0 = T - Nbcos30°
Check this.
 
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OK the horizontal component of Nb should be Nbcos60° and the vertical component of Nb should be Nbsin60°. I think I was tired and messed up the trig. Thanks for the help.
 

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