What do you think?
[edit:are you in favor of embryonic cell research or not?]
I just gave a presentation on this three days ago!
I say good!
wtf i JUST posted it how did you vote!
YOu voted BEFORE ME too!
nope, cant kil a human in hope that something else will get better.
Cosmo, could you explain that better ?
Generally, the embryo's used were going to go to waste anyway(I think), so it's that or nothing. Plus, all federally funded embryonic stem cell research uses stemm cells from stem cell lines with the original group of embryonic stem cells from pre 2001. Bassically, before 2001, if a lab took some stem cells from an embryo, they could divide the stem cells as they pleased, and now the funded research strictly uses these replicated cells, therefore not "killing" any more embryos.
Second of all, an embryo is just a ball of cells, no brain, no heart, no organs whatsoever!
Third, what about Adult Stem Cells?
Stem cell research can do so much, we need it. It's not killing a person. Do you have any idea how many fertilized embryos are destroyed by fertility clinics if the "owners" decide they no longer need them?
There are already multiple threads in biology on this topic.
You should be more specific with your question: I suspect you are asking only whether or not we support the use of embryonic stem cells in research.
I don't have a question, I was just intending this thread to be a discussion on morals, cultures, relation to religion, what PF users think, etc.
I realize that I left it so open ended that readers were confused where to go with it.
Most of you seem to think that an embryo at the stage that its stem cells are to be taken out, is not alive yet therefore you are not killing it. Correct?
What about adult stem cells? How usable are these? How quickly are systems to isolate them developing? I read a few months ago some researchers developed a blood filtering system.
I meant the question for the poll. The answers will likely change depending on whether you are asking about embyronic stem cell research or non-embryonic stem cell research, the latter of which I cannot imagine any reason for a person to be against. Then again, for that reason, I also think it is clear that you are asking about embryonic stem-cell research. I'm just trying to make sure.
What was in your presentation?
I think we should definitely go through with stem cell research.
In today's news and relevant to this thread:
As long as the extraction isn't killing or has a chance of harming the embryo, I'm okay with it. Killing a baby to save an old man is wrong, plain and simple.
This, coming from a guy who lives in McDonalds.
Heh, funny thing, I don't even like McDonalds.
And what if the embryo will be dying anyway? I don't think embryonic stem cell research includes the developement of embryos specifically for research purposes. They just use ones that will be "thrown out" or what ever they do with them if they aren't utilized in some fashion. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're correct. Even when embryos are the source of the cells, they are ones discarded anyway. Though, I suppose all those extras generated by the fertility clinics can just continue to be stored frozen for all eternity...or at least until someone forgets to pay the electric bill. :uhh:
But you are still killing it to save an old man. Right Right??
Killing what? A ball of cells? And who says it will go to save an old man? Did you read the article I linked to earlier? That's going to save young children.
I like young children.
A grown human is a ball of cells too, you know.
To me it sounds a lot like organ doning, what happened back when that was getting started? Its like cutting out one of somebody's kidneys and transplanting it into someone that has a broken kidney!
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