Stopping distance given Vinitial and distance

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The problem involves calculating the minimum stopping distance of a car given its initial speed and the distance required to stop at a lower speed. The context is rooted in kinematics and the effects of friction on stopping distances.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate stopping time and distance using kinematic equations, but expresses confusion over the results. Some participants question the application of the equations and suggest corrections to the approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, pointing out potential errors in the use of equations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationships between speed, energy, and stopping distance, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method yet.

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The original poster's calculations are based on the assumption that the same frictional forces apply, and there is an indication of confusion regarding the application of kinematic equations. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to correct and guide without providing direct solutions.

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Homework Statement


It takes a minimum distance of 41.14 m to stop a car moving at 11.0 m/s by applying the brakes (without locking the wheels). Assume that the same frictional forces apply and find the minimum stopping distance when the car is moving at 25.0 m/s.


Homework Equations



I'm using:
d=1/2(Vf + Vi) * T

and:

v^2 = u^2 + 2as

The Attempt at a Solution



So here we go, I'm going to calculate the time to stop using the first formula:
41.14 = 1/2(0+11) * T
T = 7.48

Cool, makes sense, alright. Now I'm going to use that number to get the acceleration:

0^2 = 11^2 + (2 * a * 7.48)
a = -8.088
Makes plenty of logical sense, am I right? Sweet,
Now I'm taking the acceleration and figuring out the stopping time of the faster moving vehicle like so

0^2 = 25^2+(2*-8.088*t)
t=38.64
This is weird, it takes 38 seconds for the car to stop, oh well let's see the distance

d = 1/2(Vf + Vi) * t
d = 1/2(0+25) * 38.64
d = 483 meters

Yeah no way...plug it in as the answer and no dice.

What am I doing wrong? Am I completely off here? Help!
 
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0^2 = 11^2 + (2 * a * 7.48)
a = -8.088

This step is wrong.
It should be
v^2 = u^2 -2*a*s, and s = 41.14 m
 
You have mixed up the equations near the end
it's v^2 = u^2 + 2 a S , you seem to have done '2 a T'

As a rough estimate, the ke of the car is proprtional to v^2 so double the speed is 4x the energy = 4x the stopping distance
 
rl.bhat said:
0^2 = 11^2 + (2 * a * 7.48)
a = -8.088

This step is wrong.
It should be
v^2 = u^2 -2*a*s, and s = 41.14 m

I'm an idiot! Thanks for the help!
 

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