Superpostioning of an inpendent voltage and current source with depend

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem involving the superposition of independent voltage and current sources with dependent sources. Participants are tasked with finding the voltage across a specific component (denoted as V0) and the current through a resistor (i delta) in a circuit with three branches, each containing various resistors and sources.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the circuit configuration, including a 15 Volt source in series with a 2 ohm resistor, a middle branch with a 5 ohm resistor and a current-controlled voltage source, and a rightmost branch with a 4 ohm resistor in series with a parallel configuration of an 8 ampere source and an 8 ohm resistor.
  • Participants discuss using superposition and source transformation properties to analyze the circuit, with one participant noting they reconfigured the rightmost branch to a voltage source of 64 volts in series with a 12 ohm resistor.
  • Equations are presented for mesh analysis, with one participant expressing difficulty in progressing with their calculations after setting up the equations for both scenarios of turning off the sources.
  • Another participant suggests that the current i delta flowing through the 2 ohm resistor is identical to the mesh current i1, proposing that this substitution could help in determining the numerical values for the mesh currents and subsequently finding i delta and V0.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the correlation between i delta and i1, indicating a collaborative atmosphere in the discussion.
  • One participant mentions uploading their explanation of the problem, suggesting a desire to assist others who may face similar challenges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of using mesh analysis and the superposition principle, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific numerical values for i delta and V0, as participants are still working through the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the circuit configuration and the relationships between the currents are made, but these are not fully explored or resolved within the discussion. The mathematical steps leading to the final values for i delta and V0 are also not completed.

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Homework Statement



3 branches, Indpendents are a 15 Volt source (left most branch) in series with a 2 ohm resistor (current that flows from left to right though this resistor is 'i delta'), Middle branch contains a 5 ohm resistor in series with a current controlled voltage source (3 ohms * i delta). The Right most branch has a 4 ohm resistor in series with a parallel configurtion of an 8 ampere source and a 8 ohm resistor (voltage across denoted as 'V0').

Find Vo, Find i delta


Homework Equations



using a superpostioning and source transformation properties I've been able to reconfigure the rightmost branch to a voltage source of 64 volts in series with a 12 ohm resistor



The Attempt at a Solution



Turning off the 64 volt source and leaving the 15 volt source on:

-15 volts+ 2ohms*(i delta) +5ohms* (i1-i2) +3ohm*(i delta)= 0 Volts (i1 and i2 are unknown currents the center branch, with the 3 ohm being the current controlled voltage source)

-3ohm*(i delta) -5ohms( i2-i1) -12ohms*(i2)=0 Volts



Turning off the 15 volt source and leaving the 64 volt source on:
-3ohm*(i delta) -5ohms(i2' -i1') -12 ohms*(i2')=0 Volts

-15 Volts +2ohms*(i delta)+ 5ohms(i1' -i2')+ 3ohm*(i delta)=0 Volts

I end up stuck at this point
 
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cybhunter said:

Homework Statement



3 branches, Indpendents are a 15 Volt source (left most branch) in series with a 2 ohm resistor (current that flows from left to right though this resistor is 'i delta'), Middle branch contains a 5 ohm resistor in series with a current controlled voltage source (3 ohms * i delta). The Right most branch has a 4 ohm resistor in series with a parallel configurtion of an 8 ampere source and a 8 ohm resistor (voltage across denoted as 'V0').

Find Vo, Find i delta


Homework Equations



using a superpostioning and source transformation properties I've been able to reconfigure the rightmost branch to a voltage source of 64 volts in series with a 12 ohm resistor



The Attempt at a Solution



Turning off the 64 volt source and leaving the 15 volt source on:

-15 volts+ 2ohms*(i delta) +5ohms* (i1-i2) +3ohm*(i delta)= 0 Volts (i1 and i2 are unknown currents the center branch, with the 3 ohm being the current controlled voltage source)

-3ohm*(i delta) -5ohms( i2-i1) -12ohms*(i2)=0 Volts



Turning off the 15 volt source and leaving the 64 volt source on:
-3ohm*(i delta) -5ohms(i2' -i1') -12 ohms*(i2')=0 Volts

-15 Volts +2ohms*(i delta)+ 5ohms(i1' -i2')+ 3ohm*(i delta)=0 Volts

I end up stuck at this point

It looks like you're doing mesh analysis with one source active at a time. That's fine.

Note that iΔ flowing through the 2Ω resistor is identical to the mesh current i1. So you can make that substitution for iΔ. You should be able to determine numerical values for the mesh currents (and thus determine iΔ and Vo) for either source being active.
 


If there was a thanks button, I just clicked it for you. Thanks for noting the correlation between the i delta and i1 currents
 


As a followup, I decided to upload the problem with my explanation to the problem. Hope it provides help to anybody needing some guidance (and thanks again gneill)
 

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